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  •  Boring crappy lives (1+ / 0-)
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    MKSinSA

    I never once said I wished to not have a boring crappy life. I very specifically said that reading and watching violent stuff makes me appreciate MY boring crappy life. It's not like I wish to live in the world of Panem (Hunger Games) because it would be cool to fight to the death at age 12.

    And as for violent books, as a generalization, people who read have better impulse control than people who don't.  
    Don't buy it. That is, I don't buy that only readers have better impulse control. Where did you get such a curious generalization? Has there been a study of some sort? I think I will Google it when I am done typing this, because I think that would be a particularly interesting topic of study.

    But at any rate, what about all the millions of people who DO watch violent films and tv and play violent games that don't shoot up theaters, churches, political rallies, etc? I mean for reals, did you see what a ridonculous amount of money The Avengers made worldwide? How about the Hunger Games? The Dark Knight? Do you know many millions of people around the world watched these violent films, and didn't come out of the theater thinking, "Man, that Joker guy, what a class act! Shit sounds like fun, let's DO THIS!"

    I've been playing violent video games since I was 12 (WAYYY better than fighting to the death in an arena, let me tell you!). I am 32. Can't say I have ever had a desire to kill another human being. Well, maybe that's because I am a voracious reader and have superior impulse control?

    I am not mocking you. I really am not. I think you have some interesting points and I would like to continue discussing this with the Dkos community at some point (just not today, I am leaving work early to go to the movies, so I apologize in advance for not replying to any points you further make today). But I do think it is a knee jerk reaction to point at violent games and movies and say, there, there, that's what is doing it because the culture is SICK.

    I think humans have always been "sick." I point again to all of our past literature. We are violent beasts and we have a morbid fascination with violence. It's just that we don't throw Christians to the lions anymore for the laughs. We prefer to be civilized and watch people acting like Christians pretend to be thrown to green-screened lions.

    By the way, how do you feel about movies and tv based on violent books? Is it not okay to have made Hunger Games or Game of Thrones? Do you refuse to watch these things even when they are based on books you like to read? What about when they make Shakespeare into movies (uggh let's not talk about that awful DiCaprio/Daines interpretation of Romeo & Juliet, though)?

    •  The books may be partly to blame (1+ / 0-)
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      MKSinSA

      but books are not visual. They are not a full-body, full-sensory experience the way a movie or a television show can be.

      We aren't civilized; you're right about that.

      Science can tell you how to clone a dinosaur. Humanities explains why this is a bad idea.

      by Killer of Sacred Cows on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 05:51:21 PM PDT

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