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  •  LOL...It would not surprise me. (3+ / 0-)

    De air is de air. What can be done?

    by TPau on Sun Jul 22, 2012 at 04:07:28 PM PDT

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    •  Not part part of a squad at all, but (4+ / 0-)
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      I am anti-Chavez owing to the real life experiences of a dear friend who lives in Puerto Ordaz/Ciudad Guayana. She was a middle class professional, an urban planner and community activist -- fundamentally marxist/socialist by politics.  Her life has changed hugely, she now makes and sells jams in her kitchen and runs a little lunch wagon near a local factory to pay her rent. She's no oligarch, just a single woman in her 50's trying to make a living, and it's a terrific struggle. She has always been politically active and aware, and always progressive and community oriented. She believes that Chavez exploits the needs and dreams of the poor and only pretends to actually meet them using big displays of generosity to a handful that substitutes for real improvements in the lives of the many. She has never been a friend of the wealthy. I have to believe her experience and perspective. I know her to a wise and caring person with a deep level of political awareness. Chavez, on the other hand, appears to me to be crazy and dangerous.

      The good we secure for ourselves is precarious and uncertain, is floating in mid-air, until it is secured for all of us and incorporated into our common life. Jane Addams

      by Alice Olson on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 04:19:54 AM PDT

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      •  P.S. None of this means that I believe (4+ / 0-)
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        Chavez is a threat to the US or that the US should engage with VE in any threatening way. I actually believe he's pretty ineffectual and that he's not the least ambitious to take on the US. I also believe that the Venezuelans can take care of their own business.

        The good we secure for ourselves is precarious and uncertain, is floating in mid-air, until it is secured for all of us and incorporated into our common life. Jane Addams

        by Alice Olson on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 04:25:43 AM PDT

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      •  Venezuela Not Perfect, At Least Not Yet. (4+ / 0-)
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        So sorry for your friend's unfortunate experiences.  Running a vast country of almost 30 million people is an enormously complex task under the best of conditions and, even with the greatest of visions, human beings fuck up.  Even great ones.

        One has to rely on hundreds of thousands of others to carry out tasks and responsibilities to keep things going, and those who do so, no matter how well-intentioned, don't always perform according to plan.  

        I've run into injustices with bureaucracies here which were clearly contrary to the wonderful written labor laws, but the human beings in the bureaucracy chose to ignore the law because they just couldn't be bothered doing more work; a few others were just downright malicious. And there was no accessible appeal to question their decisions.

        As an urban planner, I suspect your friend had to deal with a lot of bureaucratic problems.  I sympathize. There is a real need for deep revolutionary changes in the bureaucracy, but that will take time and very serious changes in attitude.  May need to start with kindergartners I suspect.  

        Convict Bush, Cheney and their torture cabal. Support universal health care,unions, WikiLeaks and Occupy Wall Street! Time for a totally new, democratic economic system. Turn the corporations into worker cooperatives!

        by Justina on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 07:20:38 AM PDT

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        •  Her problem has nothing to do with the (1+ / 0-)
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          bureaucracy.  Chavez himself fired her -- by name, on television, during the first year of his presidency.  Pretty much at the same time that he was dissolving the national congress and canceling local elections.

          The good we secure for ourselves is precarious and uncertain, is floating in mid-air, until it is secured for all of us and incorporated into our common life. Jane Addams

          by Alice Olson on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 07:53:58 AM PDT

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          •  Goodness, What Had She Done To Deserve That? (0+ / 0-)

            I suspect that many more facts would be needed to make conclusions based on your friend's situation.  In any case, I am sorry that she has suffered.

            Convict Bush, Cheney and their torture cabal. Support universal health care,unions, WikiLeaks and Occupy Wall Street! Time for a totally new, democratic economic system. Turn the corporations into worker cooperatives!

            by Justina on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 12:23:51 PM PDT

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