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  •  Veteran teachers are better teachers (11+ / 0-)

    there's no question about that.  It took me a good five years after making a career change into high school teaching before I got comfortable on the job.  By then, of course, I was on my fourth job, having changed from the charter school where I started and then having lost two jobs -- because I was both relatively expensive and highly inexperienced.  My administrators couldn't see the quality teacher struggling through rookie mistakes, and they just let me go.

    Now I have to commute an hour each way to get to work, and there's no way for me to either get a job closer to home or to sell my house and move closer to my work.

    Mentoring programs, however, are a sham.  Most teachers involved, mentors and mentees, view it as a formality, paperwork that must be filed and for mentors a paycheck to be cashed, and very little of value happens.  I've been through two of them, and I've seen many, many colleagues take the same approach.

    I honestly believe the biggest problem in teaching right now is that administrators are too impatient with young teachers.  Our job is a craft, a skilled trade, that takes time to acquire.  Young teachers need firm but supportive oversight from their bosses.  In my experience, that happens only rarely.

    Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
    ¡Boycott Arizona!

    by litho on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 05:13:17 AM PDT

    •  administrators (6+ / 0-)

      are mostly former gym teachers. and they went into admin for the better pay, not because they love teaching. I left teaching because I was too nuanced an educator to work with average students ( you need to be able to get through to these kids, and that takes skill; they can learn anything if they have someone who knows how to get trhough to them, and that skill can be taught to an extent; i was an alternate rtoute teacher, never learned the skills ), and really always wanted to be something else. It was too late to go back into psychology, but i did get an MSW and stayed in the school system. That job has its hassles too but I am WAY better at being a social worker than a teacher. the worst teachers I runinto are the former coporate types. I know one or tow that have worked out, but most either quit or hang on wihtout really being into it. Most actually quit, some after a few weeks. The next batch of bad teachers are the young ones. A lot of them can't help but be bad. Some get better, a lot get fired ( 40% ) in NJ are denied tenure) our best young teachers tend to come from Rutgers, were trained traditionally, and have an academic and education major. The Ivy leaguers are nice kids. They don't hang around. Saw A lot of them in the inner city; rare in the burbs; we don't waste time with TFA we want young people who are trained properly, so most come from the state schools or 2nd tier private schools likeSeton Hall or Fairleigh, which while maligned as substandard, has a wealth of programs, easy admissions, and a commitment to kids who have issues like Asperger's. Oh, and the doctors I go to , 3 brothers, all went to Fairleigh Dickinson.Sorry for the typos, it's early and I have carpal tunnel issues.

      •  let me add, we have bad older teachers too (3+ / 0-)
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        but of those, some are the late coporate types, some were always bad, butmost have developed health issues that have made them less effective. that happens everywhere. overall, young and old, MOST of the teachers I see are doing a good job. Iwanted to make that clear. It's early. And some of those younger teachers who are starting off bad get better if given the support.

        •  Yeah, I pretty much agree with everything (6+ / 0-)

          you wrote.  The teachers that last until retirement are usually about as good as they get -- in my school we've retired an English teacher and three math teachers in the last five years that are some of the best teachers I've ever seen.

          They finally forced out the horrendous math teacher, career changer from business!, who's been ruining students' lives for the last fourteen years while teaching them absolutely nothing.  He's taking early retirement, but he's still hanging on until the spring.

          We've been having trouble filling foreign language positions.  They got rid of an incompetent Latin teacher before he could get tenure, and though his replacement was much better the guy quit after two years.  So they eliminated Latin...  And there's a Spanish position they simply can't fill.  The first one left after two years, the second was denied tenure (unfairly) and the third one, a recent college graduate, realized she didn't have what it takes to be a high school teacher.

          Oh, and my principal?  Former athletic director...

          Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
          ¡Boycott Arizona!

          by litho on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 06:20:19 AM PDT

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