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  •  Now that her sister's statement (4+ / 0-)

    in support has been made known to you below (http://www.dailykos.com/...)

    “I hope it makes it easier for kids growing up gay that they know that another one of their heroes was like them,” Sally Ride's sister, Bear Ride, said.
    ... how about a little retraction and apology?  You were wrong.  Completely wrong.  You went off half-cocked, and then persisted.  You've hijacked an otherwise very valuable and meaningful diary.  So admit you were wrong and offer amends.

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 09:53:31 AM PDT

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    •  NO. I stand by my statements. Using her death as (1+ / 0-)
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      feed for the DOMA issue, tweeting boner(Dante Atkins) and posting a diary about whether rmoney is smiling or not, have no comparison to Bears' comment.

      Bear's comment is political to the point of children knowing that one of their heroes was like them. Her comment did not mention DOMA, or any politician in any way.

      They are/were private people. If they had wanted to be part of the DOMA campaign, they obviously had the opportunity. They chose not.

      There will be no DOMA benefits. FACT. Wrong? No.
      Hijacked? I did not realize I was doing so until it was pointed out to me. The same for threadjacking. I apologize for that.

      The death of a scientist from pancreatic cancer hits too close to home for me. I cannot post diaries, have only posted one short one. I was horrified to find a diary
      that did not acknowledge her as a person, as a scientist, as a leader.

      The damnable script errors don't help, either. Not being able to post in a polite timely fashion, hurried into posting barely coherent comments. Let's see if the gremlins permit this to be posted!

      My personal computer is limited, can't post without tagging on. Community computer better. Pardon tagging to comments, spelling, please.

      by CuriousBoston on Wed Jul 25, 2012 at 06:39:18 AM PDT

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      •  The portrait of the person, scientist, leader (0+ / 0-)

        would be great too. But it's not the ONLY acceptable topic, even in the case of very recent decease.  The unavailability of spousal benefits due to DOMA is by no means out of bounds.  It is, as you say, a factual matter.   Her same-sex partnership is now an acknowleged fact, and as such the legal impacts on it are an acknowledged fact.

        It's not even necessary for someone to agree with a political position, in order for the public facts of their life to provide an instructive instance of that political position.  Plenty of women who opposed the ERA were and are affected by pay discrimination.  Not all black folks thought MLK had the right approach.  And so on.  

        Even if Ride had been active in FAVOR of DOMA, which she certainly was not, it would STILL be okay to talk about it.

        Personally I think that in her quiet way she would agree that DOMA is unjust, and she would hope to see it overturned so that other surviving partners would not be denied equal justice under the law.  

        "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

        by lgmcp on Wed Jul 25, 2012 at 11:35:52 AM PDT

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        •  So in addition to hijacking her image (0+ / 0-)

          you seem to think it's ok to presume to read Dr. Ride's mind, imagining support for an issue important to many people but for which there is no indication one way or another as to how Sally Ride thought?

          Personally I think that in her quiet way she would agree that DOMA is unjust, and she would hope to see it overturned so that other surviving partners would not be denied equal justice under the law.  
          A Pancreatic Cancer Initiative has been set up as part of the UCSD Health Sciences Foundation and the family has requested donations in her memory be sent there.

          In Memory of Sally Ride

          •  I state my own suppositions (0+ / 0-)

            which are equally as likely to be valid as the personal suppositions of CuriousBoston, who posits that any mention of DOMA would have been horribly objectionable to Ride.  

            But your "gotcha" response is to my postscript, not to the main part of my post.  Which is that our lives can and do hold meaning for others quite apart from our personal opinions, and there is nothing wrong with that.

            "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

            by lgmcp on Wed Jul 25, 2012 at 06:27:54 PM PDT

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