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  •  This is all that "You didn't build this" crap (7+ / 0-)

    It is having an effect on the uninformed voters who hear the mangled soundbite and aren't given the whole quote. It seems to have resonated in a way Romney's other attacks haven't. Down here in Red America, we're getting inundated in it, so I can only imagine how it's being used (and apparently effectively) in the swing states.

    What's the old saying about a lie traveling half-way around the world before the truth pulls its pants on in the morning?

    Electing conservatives is like hiring a carpenter who thinks hammers are evil.

    by bwintx on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 11:45:47 AM PDT

    •  Agreed, even folks who never post political stuff (3+ / 0-)
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      on Facebook are furious with this comment from the President that was taken out of context..I mean really really angry at him.  And they tend to be non political types overall and some swing voter types.

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      by wishingwell on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 11:58:33 AM PDT

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    •  Indeed (6+ / 0-)

      I can't comprehend why the Obama campaign keeps drawing attention to it either...  The argument was badly advanced by the president in the first place (love him but he screwed up the delivery) and now he's paying for it.  No one is even talking about Bain or taxes right now. Instead, they're hammering the president on this issue and it is having a negative effect.

      I know we liberals loved Elizabeth Warren's original argument on this matter... and I agree with its constituent element that we're all connected and part of a bigger whole that builds this country.  But political arguments are not always about facts... they are about sentiment and sound bites.  And in a country of idiots (and we live in a country of idiots -- see Election 2004 for evidence), you can't bet against the whole American individualist "he made it on his own" (gender specificity intended) mentality.  People believe this shit.  

      I vote Democratic because I am a woman with self-respect , who rejects bigotry of all kinds, subscribes to science, believes in universal health care, embraces unions, and endorses smart internationalist foreign policy.

      by Delilah on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 12:05:34 PM PDT

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    •  Yup. (4+ / 0-)
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      GOP is having a field day with it.  I've seen the meme stuff based around the "quote" popping up in usually non-political sites.

      I suspect it will be folded into the earlier attack of "Obama didn't give credit to the actual SEALS" and will become the foundation of the Romney campaign from here on out.  

      It was a clunky message when Warren went for it, I don't know who told Pres Obama that would be a winning message even if he didn't trip over his words.  Americans have the engraved fairy tale that they are all self-made, pulled themselves up by their bootstraps type.  So telling folks you got a lot of help along the way is thus basically telling folks you are not as special or exceptional as you believe yourself to be - helluva campaign message Chicago.

      Before that remark the Romney campaigh had John Freaking Sununu spouting off about cocaine using toddler Barack.  Bain was in the news and even Republicans were calling for Romney to release taxes.  Now Romney is hitting on all cylinders with an attack that will allow him to frame Pres Obama in a new way that will stick.  

      •  Yes, I fear it will be (2+ / 0-)
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        the 2012 equivalent of "clinging to their guns and their religion" -- a remarkably true statement which nonetheless was politically inadvisable and an easy target for the Rethugs' distortion tactics.

        Electing conservatives is like hiring a carpenter who thinks hammers are evil.

        by bwintx on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 12:49:17 PM PDT

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    •  Well Warren has basically said the same thing and (0+ / 0-)

      it might win the election for her.  I agree with what the President said and I am glad he said it.

      •  I agree with him too but (0+ / 0-)

        MA is 'way different from most, if not all, the swing states. Totally different dynamic.

        Electing conservatives is like hiring a carpenter who thinks hammers are evil.

        by bwintx on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 12:51:10 PM PDT

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