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  •  And yet you know the (4+ / 0-)
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    FishOutofWater, kyril, WarrenS, Siri

    "climate skeptics" will jump ALL over that sentence to say, "See, even the scientists can't agree that this is another sign of global warming."

    •  That's why I generally don't claim specific events (11+ / 0-)

      are caused by anything.

      In this post I tried to explain the underlying processes and show how the primary feedback loop in this system works.

      I look at trends, processes and interrelationships. The trends, processes and feedbacks point to GHGs and black carbon as triggers for the warming and melting Arctic.

      I have no problem with the scientist's attempt to discuss the ice core data, but the press release doesn't give us any tables, figures or data from the ice core studies. It's unsupported by links. It's hanging out there like a chad on a Florida ballot.

      look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

      by FishOutofWater on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 06:11:55 PM PDT

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      •  I agree to a point (10+ / 0-)

        sometimes the data hits us with a 2x4.  I am living through extraordinary weather just south of Indianapolis, IN.  I watched the super derecho from not so long ago (lots of wind here but no rain) to the drought that has caused a huge amount of damage.  Lord Almighty, they've had more rain in Grand Junction, CO (where I grew up) {8"/year} than they have had here.  Could this be a weather anomaly?  Sure.  TS Debby dumps xxx amounts of rain as it stalls over northern Florida causing 2 million to relocate;  Arizona, I'm sure, has had enough haboobs to last a decade, and yet they are getting more frequent (I would love everyone to experience at least one).  I talked to my friend in Wasilla AK (yeah, that one) who complained that she wasn't having a summer at all with temps 40 to 60 F.  Long story short weather is getting more and more weird, day after day, year after year.

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