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  •  You know what (6+ / 0-)

    People fuck up. It's just a fact, they do.

    What matters is not the error, to err is to be human, but the grace with which the error is corrected; even if the form of words doesn't please everyone.

    Meteor Blades once changed the Title of one of my Diaries. Just did it because he felt the Title was inflammatory and detracted from the content.

    I fucked up, and I learned from it ... I think that JamieE has learned too.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Wed Jul 25, 2012 at 05:15:07 PM PDT

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    •  And the diarist graciously accepted my suggestions (1+ / 0-)
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      Mindful Nature

      I had been guessing from the diarist's tone that what I had to say would be accepted in the spirit in which I'd offered it. Maybe I guessed right, maybe I didn't. But given that the diarist replied graciously, I think I have some reason to think that I made the right call.

      Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

      by Nowhere Man on Wed Jul 25, 2012 at 06:18:58 PM PDT

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      •  Folks do have manners. (4+ / 0-)
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        twigg, mrkvica, 417els, glorificus

        There was plenty of evidence to think Jamie was sincerely trying to do what had been asked.

        Frankly, I can understand how someone would make that connection. I get the problem with putting it as a sig. A lot of things are triggers, pure and simple. I came back to check the apology and happily T &Rd.
        The apology is very typical of Dems; there are reasons we do things- the gut feelings we have been able to put into words. Many of us are ok with that kind of communication. It's why we don't connect well with the majority of people whose minds work in metaphors and basic values words.

        With all of the information that is now coming out about the extent of big banks, corps, CEOs, and very wealthy to deceive investors, gamble with money created on paper, raid pension plans, conduct illegal foreclosures, send jobs overseas, hide wealth in untaxable accounts, give us an expensive and mediocre health care system for ~ 75% of the population, delude governments into risky financial deals, and buy our elected reps; I am still waiting for a lot of progressives to understand how many people have died, or wish they had. So far.

        How many suicides, or euthanasia, have they brilliantly been able to get the victims to execute rather than dirty their own hands? They weren't just being cruel to Americans. Any humans, animals and even our Mother Earth have been seen as quite expendable.

        Like mass murderers we haven't been willing to fight to control, these criminals have been free to continue their crimes under the cloak of capitalism because too many lack the will to take this fight on.

        Some of us are too sick and tired to think we can be of much use. We can't lead or follow worth a damn. Getting out of the way is another choice.

        "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

        by Ginny in CO on Wed Jul 25, 2012 at 09:40:19 PM PDT

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