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  •  SIP is ready (0+ / 0-)

    Just need quality equipment :)

    Never underestimate stupid. Stupid is how reTHUGlicans win!

    by Mannie on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 06:34:26 PM PDT

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    •  tell it to Verizon! (0+ / 0-)

      I can't publish information about my specific client, but when I was on the phone today with the PBX manufacturer's engineers, I find out that they have cases on file where Verizon SIP to analog dialtone to the PBX has resulted in end-to-end received-digit errors at the PBX's IVR/voicemail.

      So here are two cases:

      1)  Verizon plain analog dialtone, POTS.  PBX works properly, IVR/voicemail receives end-to-end dialing correctly.

      2)  Verizon SIP to Verizon converter box to analog dialtone.  Pseudo-POTs if you will.  PBX malfunctions: IVR/voicemail receives dialed-digit errors.  

      What gives?   Only thing I can think of is jitter across the IP network, converted to inaudible breaks in the DTMF into the PBX, and the PBX reads the inaudible breaks as doubling of the dialed digits, and passes that along to the IVR/voicemail ports.

      So is Verizon using crappy converter boxes?  And are those the same brand of converter box that my client's carrier put at the end of a SIP line to convert to PRI to feed my PBX?  In which case if two carriers are doing it, are the rest of them doing it as well?

      And all for the sake of what, exactly?  Not to improve service to the subscriber, because they still have some kind of analog handset at their end.  If we were talking ISDN here, even two-channel BRI, subscribers would see actual improvement: PBX-like functionality, DID for families so residential and home office and kids' lines could all be accommodated, with hunting, and with "night service" options, and etc. etc. etc.

      But the purpose of SIP isn't to give the subscribers more; it's all about squeezing more profit out of the network.  

      Meanwhile I spent a good two hours tonight, on top of many hours this week, dealing with the side-effects of this Brave New World.  

      It's another iteration of the race to the bottom, dressed up in shiny packaging, and foisted on people as somehow being inevitable.

      And just as surely as it's screwing subscribers, it's screwing you and your fellow workers, and creating unwelcome "excitement" for me & mine.  

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 12:27:59 AM PDT

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      •  Not ever Verizon employee :) (0+ / 0-)

        Anyways, in other companies I have seen VOIP/SIP work very good.

        I would see if Verizon has a competetor in the area (CLEC type)

        My comment above was about telecom workers all together, sorry if you mis-understood

        Never underestimate stupid. Stupid is how reTHUGlicans win!

        by Mannie on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 04:13:43 PM PDT

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