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  •  I have lived in a fairly tony Bay Area (8+ / 0-)

    suburb (as a renter) and I have lived in an urban core, where I'm much happier. I have shopping, cafés, a large public library, and a popular network of city parks within easy walking distance. It was all laid-out before cars became widespread. As far as I'm concerned, that's why it's live-able.

    Yes, real-estate developers, as well as oil barons, peddle lies. To unsuspecting masses, they sell the lie of "unlimited space." They push the lie of "rustic quiet," and they keep people hooked on the utter falsehood of "safety." Suburbia is sick, because it's founded on lies.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Sun Jul 29, 2012 at 07:26:31 PM PDT

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    •  I'm not suggesting that ... (6+ / 0-)
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      ... property developers would do it out of the goodness hidden in the depths of their hearts ... it would be greed driving them.

      But that same greed would mean appeals from Big Oil to avoid doing anything to undermine a long time political ally would fall on deaf ears. If they recognize that their bread is buttered on a different side, they are flipping their slice of bread, "long time political ally" be damned.

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      by BruceMcF on Sun Jul 29, 2012 at 07:39:13 PM PDT

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      •  Oil isn't the same industry it once was (0+ / 0-)

        No matter what happens in this regard in the US, global (and US) demand for oil will remain robust. Oil companies aren't going to bother opposing new urban development.

        Car companies might, I guess, but even that I think is a stretch.

        The biggest opponents (IMO) are going to be regular suburbanites/exurbanites who don't want to change and who think they are entitled to that lifestyle.

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Mon Jul 30, 2012 at 09:24:34 AM PDT

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        •  The actvities of the ... (0+ / 0-)

          ... think tanks they fund include a strong focus on opposing HSR, opposing transit spending, and supporting mandatory parking minimums (the last is a kind of a red flag that its an interest of those paying the bills, because most of these think tanks pretend to be libertarian).

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          by BruceMcF on Mon Jul 30, 2012 at 12:12:30 PM PDT

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          •  They are hoping to transition from gasoline (0+ / 0-)

            to some other fuel at Big Oil can control.

            •  If they can, but they are ... (1+ / 0-)
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              ... also hoping to have as big a windfall gain from the long term declining physical volume of petroleum production as possible.

              The greater the price inelasticity of demand for gasoline, diesel and etc, the greater the windfall gains from price increases in the face of declining production. And the fewer alternatives to the use of gasoline, diesel and etc., the greater the price inelasticity of demand.

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              by BruceMcF on Mon Jul 30, 2012 at 03:16:10 PM PDT

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