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  •  As I noted it doesn't matter here in Calif. (0+ / 0-)

    but I wonder how people are reacting in tech oriented Mass? Based on my conversations with people here, which is a small sample, entrepreneurs feel that the same infrastructure (in the broadest terms) is available to everyone but that it takes someone special to actually start and successfully grow a startup. In their view the roads and bridges and the rest of the infrastructure would be exactly the same regardless of whether they were earning a good salary working 50 hours a week for Intel or Cisco or 100 hours a week, for no current salary, working on their technology and hunting for investors. In their view the risks they are taking should be praised, not demeaned.  Even for the small fraction who find investors and start to build a business it can be  three to five years before they see any significant financial return on their investment of time and their own capital. Personally I found the original Elizabeth Warren speech about "you didn't build that alone" troubling. When the President added to it things like it wasn't the hard work, or being smart, I felt attacked.

    Some have said that the "you didn't build it alone" is a theme created by wordsmith George Lakoff, I don't know. Should Fortune 2000 executives being paying higher taxes, sure, they certainly aren't creating new jobs. Should the successful, mature, shall business owners pay higher taxes, sure. According to the US Census Bureau they aren't creating new jobs. The attack seems misguided, focusing on the only real job creators according to the Census Bureau, most all of whom aren't receiving high salaries and haven't cashed in any equity yet.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Mon Jul 30, 2012 at 04:20:27 PM PDT

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    •  I think the reason they take the infrastructure (0+ / 0-)

      for granted (which is what it sounds to me they are doing) is because of overarching republican talking points which have minimized the value of working collectively.

      I am sad that people (including you) are feeling attacked by this message. As I said, I think it is important push back on anti-government rhetoric we have all been immersed in for the past 30 years.

      I am at heart a populist. I think the laws should benefit the greatest number of citizens possible, and that certainly isn't what is happening now. But I don't begrudge people their money. I just think we need realistic tax laws and we need to understand that we all benefit from the services our taxes provide. Honestly I think people who are taking that message personally might want to consider what they really believe about government's role in the lives of it's citizens.

      Poverty = politics.

      by Renee on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 10:03:11 AM PDT

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      •  You're right, of course, about people's view of (2+ / 0-)
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        government's role in society being the problem.

        But we aren't getting them to step back and reconsider it with the way the president is currently expressing the message. He's blowing it, and that makes me really sad and extremely frustrated because I know his heart is in the right place. But the people we're trying to reach aren't convinced of that, and we need them to be in order to inspire them to get out and vote for him.

        Stop the party of Gut & Spend policies that gut our Earned Benefits programs like Social Security and Medicare and spends on tax breaks for the wealthy elite.

        by jillwklausen on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 11:11:23 AM PDT

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        •  It is true that we aren't getting them to step (0+ / 0-)

          back and reconsider.

          And I agree with you that framing is vital to that effort. And I get it that we (the people who want this conversation to happen) are the ones who must find a way to get through to people.

          But there is something else that needs to happen. They need to own that they are not taking responsibility for themselves. In my conversation with VClib I'm hearing this whiney "everyone has access to the roads and why am I being picked on" sort of undertone. On some level if people don't look at the situation and figure out what they can contribute to the discussion instead of waiting for someone to figure out how to approach them in a way that their ego can handle… do you see what I'm saying here?

          I do not see what our President has done for the last three years as being anti-start up.

          Sometimes it isn't working to find a delicate and palatable way to say something that finally gets through. Occasionally a resounding there is work to be done stop pouting is necessary.

          Poverty = politics.

          by Renee on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 12:26:00 PM PDT

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