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  •  Respectfully, (0+ / 0-)

    I think this idea is crap.  I'm now fifty-three.  Not a single one of my teachers from kindergarten through high school had a master's degree, but I knew more coming out of grade school than most high-school graduates today.  And while I took about a 700 verbal on my GSAT's finishing college, my grandmother who got HER high-school diploma around 1918 could spell me under the table.  Two years later I was coaching an apprentice on her college chemistry for nursing school, and found myself having to explain things she should have learned in high school.  I did.  Her teachers had master's degrees.

    It really has nothing to do with the degrees.  One of my best friends has given up pursuing the additional degrees and certifications to teach professionally in his home state due to the constant increase in bureaucratic nonsense and high expense of simply keeping up a license.  But he substitutes.  A couple of years ago he had to teach an entire semester of French.  He'd never taken a course in French in his life.  He did it by cramming enough to stay ahead of the class.  Why was someone who had never even taken a French course delegated to teach high school French?  Oh, well, they couldn't find anyone who was certified.  It costs so much and requires jumping through so many hoops, and there isn't a school in the region that can afford to actually hire a full-time French teacher, so it's a complete waste for a would-be teacher to waste the time and money on the subject either.

    Continue to increase the bureaucratic bs required to teach, and you will continue to drive the best and brightest out to do something, ANYTHING other than be a constant political football in our school systems.  Piling on more marginally-related coursework has little or nothing to do with the personal qualities that make for a teacher who will light a young person's path forward.  All it does is increase the profits of the (for-profit) higher education industry.

    •  why bother ? you are ignorant and not qualified (0+ / 0-)

      to discuss the issue. I am. With all due respect. Stick to nursing. Maybe we should eliminate licensing for nurses then. I am not calling you ignorant as insult; iam calling you ignorant because you don't have a fucking clue. with all due respect....

    •  Ah yes ... the class of '77 (0+ / 0-)

      Or was it '76 or '78? No matter. As I recall kids in the late 70s were an affable group, perhaps because such a large percentage of you were stoned. You guys liked your dope.

      I remember some of my older teaching colleagues at the time, members of the class of ’57, despairing that you would ever amount to anything.

      But then what could one expect from the class of '57, the lost generation, the beat generation, the original rock and roll generation. My parents, members of the class of '37, thought they were spoiled.

      You remember the class of '37 ... the greatest generation. They never tired of retailing the youngsters about how they suffered. Of course if you talked to my grandparents, the class of '17 .... Never mind. It's all anecdotal anyway.

      Me? The class of '65. The best and the brightest. Highest SAT scores ever. Committed. Involved.  Creative. Changing the world! At least that's the way I remember it.

      A proud member of the Professional Left since 1967.

      by slatsg on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 05:51:51 PM PDT

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