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  •  Red rice yeast is same as Lovastatin; but because (7+ / 0-)

    it's an unregulated 'supplement', the actual amount of active ingredient is a complete crapshoot. The reason why it has no side effects is that there's often so little of the active ingredient that it's a placebo. Might as well take homeopathic 'medicine'.

    And because the amount of the active ingredient is so uncertain, you may also get toxic if the amount is higher than expected. And just like any other statin, red rice yeast can interact badly like with grapefruit juice.

    Just because it's 'natural' doesn't mean it's good, or safe, or effective. Arsenic is completely natural. So is botulinum toxin.

    •  Of course it can be good, safe and effective (6+ / 0-)

      unless you don't know how much to take.We do not do studies on how much of something like red yeast rice one should take. There's no money in it. Pharmaceutical companies would much rather have people taking their stuff so they can earn their billions - even if the drugs don't work for everyone.
      It's been said (by the CEO of Glaxo, BTW) that 99% of prescription drugs work for only 30% of those who take them.
      THIRTY PERCENT.
      That means 2/3 of those taking them get little or no benefit, or even have adverse reactions.
      Natural substances DO work, when taken properly.
      Of course, diet and exercise work too. It's just that Americans don't want to have to work hard when a pill promises them to do it without all that work.
      Don't knock natural. Western medicine is only a couple of hundred years old. Eastern medicine is thousands of years old.
      We only need to open our eyes and ears!
      ;)

      Isn’t it ironic to think that man might determine his own future by something so seemingly trivial as the choice of an insect spray. ~ Rachel Carson, Silent Spring ~

      by MA Liberal on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 06:41:43 PM PDT

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      •  Natural substances are not standardized. (1+ / 0-)
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        This means that even if there had been a study in which they determined, that, say, 2 mg worked for controlling cholesterol, the results would be useless because they could not be generalized to any other batch. Furthermore, there is virtually no regulation of supplements which means they could contain anything from anabolic steroids to mercury and no one would be the wiser until becoming ill.

        The founding fathers knew of the mutually corrupting influences of Church and state, wisely sending them to opposite corners.

        by emidesu on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 09:44:27 PM PDT

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      •  This is not as up to date as I would like. (0+ / 0-)

        The NIH maintains a data base for supplements and alternative therapies at the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine web site. You can check what they have evaluated in the literature.

        Local nutrition based stores may have free certified nutritionist consults. I would not use one that works for a store that sells an exclusive brand.

        Properly prescribed drugs, properly taken, account for the largest number of deaths from medical care in America.

        Two significant culprits now are PPIs. Protein pump inhibitors are widely prescribed for GERD, especially in the elderly. They interfere with gastric secretions which then decreases proper digestion of proteins especially, and allows some bugs to flourish in the gut. Clostridium diffocele diarhea is running rampant in nursing homes and hospitals, it is very hard to control, alcohol based hand cleaners don't work on it and the elderly get very debilitated from it even when they recover.

        Osteoporosis meds that decrease bone loss may create worse problems, mostly in a small percent of women that take them. Studies are still early but the rationale is supported in that the drugs prevent the normal breakdown of the bone cell matrix to use the minerals for chemical reactions in the body during the day. At night they are redeposited (why you may get leg cramps at night, take a calcium/mag supplement at bedtime with apricots or banana for potassium) and the matrix is rebuilt. Called remodeling, it keeps the bones stronger as long as the dietary minerals are adequate. Without being broken down, the matrix cells can weaken enough to cause a brittle fracture from normal movements without a fall.

        "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

        by Ginny in CO on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 10:15:07 PM PDT

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      •  Yes. And 3rd world rates of premature death are... (0+ / 0-)

        completely 'natural'.

        There's a reason why science trumps blind faith in natural remedies when it comes to longevity.

        It would be wonderful if everyone had a healthy diet and active lifestyle. Don't knock modern medicine blindly; we work on this stuff all the time. Our corporate overlords have a lot more to do with sloth and obesity than medicine does.

        •  But it's OK to follow Western medicine blindly (0+ / 0-)

          in that we do what they tell us to do, no questions asked.
          natural remedies have been studied for thousands of years. Just because the AMA, or FDA, hasn't done it doesn't mean they don't have validity.
          And I include in "our corporate overlords" the pharmaceutical industry who barely tests drugs before they go on the market, often having to pull them when things go wrong.
          I say follow nothing blindly.

          Isn’t it ironic to think that man might determine his own future by something so seemingly trivial as the choice of an insect spray. ~ Rachel Carson, Silent Spring ~

          by MA Liberal on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 03:00:32 PM PDT

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