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  •  I know someone who had to track down a (17+ / 0-)

    rail car full of nuclear weapons which were being shipped to Kerr-McGee for reprocessing.   The rail car was missing for 18 months.

    It was found on a siding in Wyoming.  Had been sitting there all that time.

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    by captainlaser on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:01:25 AM PDT

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    •  no way (0+ / 0-)

      Are you sure there were weapons in the rail car? I really, really doubt that that is true.

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      by subtropolis on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 10:05:46 AM PDT

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    •  I'll call BS on that. (1+ / 0-)
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      Nuclear weapons receive a heavy escort, maintain constant communications and have things like GPS tracking.

    •  I'd like to see a link to that because the car (0+ / 0-)

      did not set itself off in a siding and as a former brakeman I can tell you that whenever anything of unusual importance is part of the consist list it gets very special attention. It would not get put in a siding for a later train to pick up to take it it's direction, it would go to a Yard to be marshaled into the right train...and upon arrival it most likely it would be spotted as close as possible to eyes at the terminal.

      PLUS when the train arrived at it's destination the Yard Master would have certainly noticed the missing numbers on the list.

      Once a friend and I (a fellow Brakeman) joked about setting off a car of silver in a siding for waiting accomplices and as we played with the idea we couldn't get past how to replace that car with one with the same numbers so it would get counted upon arrival at the terminal.

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      by aliasalias on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 12:41:58 PM PDT

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    •  For many years, (0+ / 0-)

      weapons have only been transported within or on bombers or on Safe Secure Trailers in convoys with a couple or three dozen of the most heavily armed "cowboys" you've probably ever seen. Argonne-West had occasion to use that system for other items from time to time and also was a safe haven where convoys could stop.

      I have seen a train full of weapon pits in Russia, though.

      And one time a nuclear test device sat on a loading dock in a secure area of Livermore National Lab when it should not have for some hours. The nuclear material safeguards folks there told me of that incident but not when it happened.

      But a train all by its lonesome in the U.S. filled with weapons? I have to call bullshit on that one.

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      by billmosby on Mon Aug 06, 2012 at 10:57:09 PM PDT

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