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  •  Anyone smart enough to appreciate (18+ / 0-)

    the political lessons of such a project already does.  The rest of the people either think it's an ivory tower toy for intelleckshulls whose funding should have all been delivered in buckets to some military contractor for an Acme weapons system to "defend" us against threats that don't exist, or else spent inoculating children in Cameroon and setting up gender studies scholarships.

    Republicans would rather live in shit than be seen working a shovel.

    by Troubadour on Thu Aug 09, 2012 at 07:28:32 PM PDT

    •  Is There an Implied Equivalency There? (5+ / 0-)

      The Cameroonians and gender studies are genuine needs, not that one probe mission would seriously dent either problem.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu Aug 09, 2012 at 07:31:37 PM PDT

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      •  To me, its just an illucidation of a couple of (2+ / 0-)
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        very real mindsets.

        There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

        by oldpotsmuggler on Thu Aug 09, 2012 at 07:46:14 PM PDT

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      •  Sometimes it's more effective to deal with (9+ / 0-)

        one problem by solving another first.  Which do you think would be a faster track to making the third world a better place:

        1.  Continuing to try to guilt rich people into behaving responsibly and harangue the oppressed into organizing...

        or

        2.  Continue increasing the economic, scientific, and technological resources of humanity in general, so that all opportunities increase across the board?

        Obviously these aren't mutually exclusive, but the question of which is more powerful has already been answered by history.  The cellular phone and social networking have done more for the Third World than all traditional charity and external politics ever have.  And space travel - even limited to millionaires at first - will do more for all of this world than any technology ever has.  I study the subject deeply, and I tell you that is my overwhelming conclusion.

        Republicans would rather live in shit than be seen working a shovel.

        by Troubadour on Thu Aug 09, 2012 at 07:55:32 PM PDT

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        •  yes! (1+ / 0-)
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          Here's a link to Afrigadget, a site for technological solutions in Africa.  There are boatloads of these projects -- Troubadour, are there other good sites?

          •  I'm not that deep into the subject (6+ / 0-)

            I just know about major advancements that have been made in Africa through general science and technology sites like MIT's Technology Review and Scientific American.  

            The biggest deal is this: Cellphones, sat-phones, and GPS have allowed people in the Third World to circumvent the limitations of infrastructure by calling for services anywhere, and being able to locate each other anywhere.  People who had to wait several days for medical attention to arrive can get it within hours.  The costs in both time and economic value inflicted by poor road conditions and poorly-mapped territories have been drastically reduced.

            It's also profoundly increased the effectiveness of traditional charity and volunteer work, since they can get food, water, shelter, and medicine to needed areas from central depots far more quickly.

            Republicans would rather live in shit than be seen working a shovel.

            by Troubadour on Thu Aug 09, 2012 at 08:23:10 PM PDT

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        •  Just imagine it. (1+ / 0-)
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          The lift market expanding into equatorial Africa.

          •  Equatorial Launch Sites? (1+ / 0-)
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            Wouldn't equatorial launch sites have particular advantages for orbital missions?  I don't know, but it just seems to make sense.  

            The stain of Bain is wrecking Romney's name. h/t to Lerner & Lowe

            by LeftOfYou on Fri Aug 10, 2012 at 06:20:53 PM PDT

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