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  •  Well at least he didn't fold his tent and go home (1+ / 0-)
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    Did he always make the best choices? No, he did not. Is it fair to say that he did not? Yes, it is.

    But what is not fair is to act as if he is the problem.Like Van Jones said, some people acting as if electing President Obama was like "downloading an app". They seem to believe it was that simple to make massive change.

    I think we need to weed out the political poseurs from the real movement types. One way you can tell the difference is that the former is all about excuses and blame while the latter understands what we are trying to do cannot be done by a single president or several cycles of Congress.

    Let's stop pointing fingers and get to work changing the minds of our fellow citizens. Expecting change to come any other way is divisive and counterproductive.

    "There is nothing more dreadful than the habit of doubt. Doubt separates people. It is a poison that disintegrates friendships and breaks up pleasant relations. It is a thorn that irritates and hurts; it is a sword that kills.".. Buddha

    by sebastianguy99 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 11:22:54 AM PDT

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    •  Occupiers (4+ / 0-)

      (the real ones) didn't fold tents and go home. They were beaten, pushed, jabbed, teargassed, pepper sprayed, arrested, jailed, hospitalized, harassed, displaced, and dispersed by authoritarian mayors who were often Democrats, with some help and coordination from DHS.

      In one case in Portland, in a Federal park, DHS was directly involved.

      They didn't fold their tents. Their tents, libraries, clothing, computers, food, and equipment, were ripped up and left in tatters in the parks, to be scooped up later by tractors and garbage trucks.

      But Obama folded his tent a long time ago by becoming influenced by Wall STreet money.

      When he leaves office, he will be firmly established in the 1%.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act". -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 12:18:15 PM PDT

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    •  here's another way to tell the difference: (2+ / 0-)
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      I think we need to weed out the political poseurs from the real movement types. One way you can tell the difference is that the former is all about excuses and blame while the latter understands what we are trying to do cannot be done by a single president or several cycles of Congress.
      The ones who send cops to clunk you over the head, are not on your side:

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      Homeland Security Documents Show Massive Nationwide Monitoring of Occupy Movement
      Documents just obtained by the PCJF from its FOIA request show massive nationwide monitoring, surveillance and information sharing between the Department of Homeland Security and local authorities in response to Occupy. The PCJF, also on behalf of author/filmmaker Michael Moore and the National Lawyers Guild Mass Defense Committee, has made a series of FOIA demands regarding law enforcement involvement in the Occupy Crackdown. ...

      This set of released materials reveals intense involvement by the DHS' National Operations Center (NOC) in these activities. The DHS describes the NOC as, "the primary national-level hub for domestic situational awareness, common operational picture, information fusion, information sharing, communications, and coordination pertaining to the prevention of terrorist attacks and domestic incident management. The NOC is the primary conduit for the White House Situation Room and DHS Leadership for domestic situational awareness and facilitates information sharing and operational coordination with other federal, state, local, tribal, non-governmental operation centers and the private sector."

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