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  •  By-Gone Era (15+ / 0-)

    Full disclosure, I'm from Iowa, and we are very happy to have our battleship recently open as a museum.  Those not aware of the  history, U.S.S. Iowa (BB-61) is the lead class of battleships to which U.S.S. Wisconsin (Bb-64) belongs.

    Midful of that history, the battleship was discarded as the navy's primary weapon after WW2.  From the air the Royal Navy took out the German Bismark and Tipritz, and the Italians at Toronto.  After battleship row was decimated the navy used carriers and subs to bring the war to Japan.  Battles at Coral Sea, Midway, and Phillippine Sea were fought entire by air and sub.  Surface engagements were few, notably at Guadacanal and Leyte Gulf.  After the war, most navies scrapped all their battleships, although the Brits held out for a little longer.  Only the US Navy kept the four Iowas in service, eventually mothballing them in the post-Vietnam era.

    Reagan brought them back to service as massive gun platforms to terrify the Soviets.  After the Gulf War, the battleships were finally decommissioned to possible museum locations.  (Personally, I would have like to see battleships remain on station in the really hot spots.  A U.S.S. Cole-type attack would likely have resulted in just a repaint job.  And you can't beat the awe-inducing roar of the battleship's main battery in an area like the Persian Gulf.)

    OK, so enough history, which is basically the point.  R&R basically made their historic announcement on an object of the past, which really is where their ideas are leading us.  Push back of minority rights, reinstallment of central religion, destruction of civil liberties, and so on.  In a way, I can't think of a more fitting place for conservatives to put a podium on.  "We want to take you back to the 80's, when we put this ship back to sea (and when we armed Central American guerrillas and gave weapons to bin Laden)."

    We can choose to remember what we were and how we got better, or cling to the past and set our claws againt the future.  That's a choice to be made in November.

    Faith Manages. -- J.M. Straczynski

    by Master Alchemi on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 02:01:18 AM PDT

    •  Back to the 80's....when Bain was started (9+ / 0-)

      with funds from families who had supported and funded death squads in Central America. It's all tied together, isn't it?

    •  Massive gun platforms to terrify the Soviets? (0+ / 0-)

      Those massive platforms could have been taken out by a few submarine based or land based missles, despite their bulk or armor.  I'm not sure that anyone other than third world armies within 25 miles of the shore would have much to fear from those lumbering white elephants.  I think they were mostly re-commissioned to give the Reagan White House the feeling they were really WWII type bad-asses.  Reagan used them in Lebanon, and we all know how well the US intervention there went.  The big battleships did relatively little to help.

      And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

      by MrJersey on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 09:01:42 AM PDT

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