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  •  I agree Romney is a dumbass, but (3+ / 0-)

    I think he has been paying some attention to the voices on the right, and all those people he has met on the campaign trail.
    I still remember the G.O.P. Debates and how selfish and unfeeling those bastards in the audience were. These are the folks who Ryan's plan will appeal to. These are the people who probably would never vote for Obama, but may have stayed home without Ryan on the ticket.
    Now they have a reason, gutting Medicare, and Medicaid, cutting back on food stamps. college loans, all the things that really help those people who are totally struggling in this economy. This is the "I have mine, f**K everyone else crowd. These people are ignorant, greedy bastards, and Ryan is a Saint to these folks. So, I am not scared, but a bit worried, since the economy is so bad, and during a bad economy, people scapegoat, and they scapegoat the most vulnerable in our society. I think perhaps we should not be so cocky, just because they don't like Mitt, they love Ryan. I also think he will totally out debate Biden, and that could be a problem.
    I also think Ryan will appeal to the Ron Paul supporters, so he will be a force to reckon with, for sure.

    •  I disagree re Biden. (25+ / 0-)

      Properly prepped, I think Biden could chew him to shreds.

      He won't have to hold back the way he did with Palin, in order not to appear ungentlmanly. And although Ryan is not the treasure trove of dumb that Palin was, I think we are soon going to learn that his much vaunted intellect ain't quite so vaunted as all that. Like Gingrich, "a stupid person's idea of a smart person".

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 05:41:30 AM PDT

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    •  well you're certainly entitled to those ideas (10+ / 0-)

      but the data about Ryan and the Ryan plan are not new. Visit the links in the diary. It's not a popular plan.

      Nothing's chaged.

      And frankly, at one point people thought Romney would be a tough opponent against Obama. Looks like that didn't quite turn out the way everyone planned.

      The thing you don't take into account is this: in a tough economy you say people want to scapegoat. But in a tough economy people nee food stamps and their unemployment checks and to keep what little money they're earning. Those people will be voting and they will not be voting for the fuckers who want more tax cuts for rich people while gutting the minimum wage, health care, medicare, medicaid, nutrition assistance, the mortgate interest deduction and on and on.

      I'd say it's a lose-lose for Romney/Ryan. They'll attract s few angry bitter folks who might have voted for Obama (maybe) but they will lose FAR MORE voters who would have otherwise fallen for Romney's bullshit trickle down economic vagaries but who now, seeing what the actual plan is, will say, fuck dat and vote for Obama.

      I'm not scared or worried. Ryan was the best pick for democrats ever.

      For the record, I am not a member of Courtesy Kos. Just so you know. Don't be stupid. It's election season. My patience is short.

      by mdmslle on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 05:47:38 AM PDT

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      •  on those 'can't believe it folks' (7+ / 0-)

        there is something to that phenomenon.
        Listening to Mike Papantonio on TalkLeft yesterday about cases he's brought against big pharma he expressed frustration that juries routinely dismissed his provable allegations about, essentially, using customers as guinea pigs, and taking their harm and even death as a cost of doing business (hey, $10 billion in profits for Predaxa, but only $2 billion in fines is good business!).

        there is a stubborn refusal to believe the obvious when it conflicts with a deeply cherished belief. In this case, juries didn't want to accept that corporations will gladly kill them with dangerous products if the balance sheet shows up positive. And those were juries, seated, spoken directly to, and given every chance to focus on what was plain to see.

        The American electorate will not be such a captive audience, and the (TRUE) allegations by dems about what RobMe and Eddie Munster have in store for them will be dismissed as impossibly over the top by a lot of people.

        Not to despair or disparage this righteous rant, but we have our work cut out for us. For decades, the Republican party has painted everyone else as radical, and here they are, with the most radical transformation of the country since the abolition of slavery teed up and ready to inflict on us.
        It CAN happen here. Everyone needs to know that.

        Mitt Romney is not running a campaign; he's making a hostile takeover bid.

        by kamarvt on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 06:27:12 AM PDT

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        •  we've always had our work cut out for us (4+ / 0-)
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          hence the "I'm ALL IN" reference. Of course it can happen here  and there's a lot yet to do and much to be concerned about.

          And yes, i'll concede that it can be hard for people to believe very deeply cherished things. We see it everyday when a husband can't believe his wife husband cheats, or a neighbor can't believe his best friend is a pedophile or a mother can't believe her son is a rapist. I'll grant that. Denial is real.

          But fear is also not a factor in many of those cases. A close personal entanglement with the outcome is not part of ruling that a pharmaceutical company is evil. Denial is real but not insurmountable and let's not forget: we don't need EVERYONE who hears this message to believe it and be afraid of it and act to prevent Romney/Ryan from taking office, we only need a few percent of people. And from what I have seen of the polling on this Ryan Budget, 51% in a Pew Research Poll and 58% in a CNN Poll, decidedly don't like it. If even a few of those folks swing to our side, we're golden.

          For the record, I am not a member of Courtesy Kos. Just so you know. Don't be stupid. It's election season. My patience is short.

          by mdmslle on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 06:39:35 AM PDT

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      •  There is no plan other than more for the evil 1% (0+ / 0-)

        Less and 100% of nothing for the remainder of us. So simple the stupid TBAgs can understand. And we have to fight over those crappy crumbs.

        Tax cuts for the rich & deregulation ....so more poisoned food & environment for all.

        The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

        by a2nite on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 03:01:02 PM PDT

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    •  Repeat of 2008... (15+ / 0-)

      McCain was in trouble, couldn't connect with the base. He was making all kinds of gaffes and mistakes. His poll numbers were dropping. They had to do something. Sound familiar?

      So they bought in someone to take the heat off the Presidential candidate. Her press time increased, they fawned over her management experience and so forth. McCain was in the background, at least for the repub party. Palin's rallys had more in attendance than his. However, the President never let up on McCain. McCain continued making gaffes and performing badly in debates.

       No matter who the #2 man is, it's the man out front, the presidential candidate that seals the deal. All Ryan does is make the contest interesting. Romney crying uncle is a boring election. That's why the press is excited. Now we have a contest and that's a good thing.

      People will decide if they want a President who feels he doesn't need to share his past with them. Who believes he can say whatever he wants today and change it tomorrow. Who has been involved in tax scams and questionable business practices.

      Romney decided he'd rather talk about gutting SS and Medicare than him. He'll learn that this is not his board-room and he doesn't set the agenda. Everything will be on the table for the American people.

      He's not perfect, nobody is, but he is my President. Obama 2012.

      by emcneill on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 06:11:16 AM PDT

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      •  amen. nt (1+ / 0-)
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        For the record, I am not a member of Courtesy Kos. Just so you know. Don't be stupid. It's election season. My patience is short.

        by mdmslle on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 06:59:57 AM PDT

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      •  And it helps that when they're standing together, (2+ / 0-)
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        the wet-behind-the-ears Paul Ryan looks like a puppet that has to climb down from Mitt Romney's knee to make a speech.

        Of course that may have been an intentional ploy to deflect attention from the fact that in actual governing, Mitt Romney would be Ryan's puppet - or at least the puppet of Ryan's wing of the catastrophere.

        Because stupid people are so sure they're smart, they often act smart, and sometimes even smart people are too stupid to recognize that the stupid people acting smart really ARE stupid.

        by ZedMont on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 07:23:46 AM PDT

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        •  Ryan is actually taller than Romney, but I can't (0+ / 0-)

          get Eddie Mittster, er, Munster out of my head.

          Because stupid people are so sure they're smart, they often act smart, and sometimes even smart people are too stupid to recognize that the stupid people acting smart really ARE stupid.

          by ZedMont on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 08:17:46 AM PDT

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