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  •  YOU stated "human being". eom. (1+ / 0-)
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    by CuriousBoston on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 03:41:41 PM PDT

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    •  Please be explicit. n./t (0+ / 0-)
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        •  You are talking about the bots, not the party. (0+ / 0-)

          The bots are human beings. You said so. So which is it, the bots, or the party?

          My personal computer is limited, can't post without tagging on. Community computer better. Pardon tagging to comments, spelling, please.

          by CuriousBoston on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 06:11:27 PM PDT

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          •  Its the party. The organization is irrational (0+ / 0-)

            The organization is a bunch of locked-ward psychos competing to be the one and only Napoleon on the ward. Herman Cain - a sick man. Michelle Bachmann, nuts in a self-aggrandizing way. Sarah Palin, a grifter with overtones of religious nuttery. At this moment, the economic nuttery of Paul Ryan, the Ayn Rand worshipper/denier is king of the hill. Maybe we should start calling Ryan "peter" because he has denied his god, Ayn, three times.

            But all of the above is about the leadership, the organization.

            The followers (as I said somewhere in this thread), until a decade ago, they were just ordinary conservatives who supported non-nutso policies, like the GOP healthcare plan which was Romneycare.

            My contention here is that the party leadership went nuts, and the rank and file has to choose to go along with the nuttiness or bail. Furthermore, I agree with whoever said it, that many of these folks joined the GOP out of social sympathy. But, I add that that sympathy for the GOP brand came out of a shared culture.

            My contention is that that culture has gone rotten from the top down. It was bought and twisted by Koch Bros' (and others') money into the rancid, psychopathic Tea Party, which has taken over the GOP. Conservatives, being loyal and not too imaginative, will naturally dig in their heels and defend their choice of party IN THE PAST without regards to what that party has become today. That is all part of the calculation of the GOP leadership - keep the suckers on the bus.

            My contention is that the bulk of the GOP is like the victim of schizophrenia vis-a-vis the GOP organization. The organization does things they do not wish (witness polls showing majorities of even GOP want to save social security, and majorities opposing many Tea Party initiatives), and they are unable to control it. It is done in their name, with "reasons" that resonate, in some degree, with their shared culture.

            But, these people are uneasy. They know something is wrong. That is why the Paul Ryan thing has started a lot of GOP voter self-reflection about why the hell we want to destroy a successful, paid for by itself program like Social Security just because two jumped-up aristos demand it.


            So, to try to clear up your confusion, the "bots" as you put it, are only bots as long as they remain unthinking. As long as they can choose to change their minds, they are not brain cells along for the ride in a schizophrenic brain. OTOH, as long as they dig in their heels, they are bots.

            That said, my main point is that I hold no hope of reaching these people by logic in the face of the immense amount of money being spent to keep the propaganda bubble they live in inflated. That is why I say that you have to recruit the non-bots; and one way to do that is to point out the literally insane behavior of the bots.

            My essay is truly just a metaphor; and I continue to insist that even people who have had mental illness would want the sick behavior of the GOP to be scrutinized from that POV.

            I mean, really, if you were restrained/ medicated/ institutionalized for mental illness, would you want these sickos running the country into the ground and getting rich doing so? Or would you want the literal insanity of their POLICIES challenged in the strongest terms possible, i.e. that the party platform is a document produced by mental illness?

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