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  •  I had wondered when W left office if his name (1+ / 0-)
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    would be rehabilitated the way Carter's name has been rehabilitated amongst Democrats.  But given how things have developed since then, I don't think it will be.

    Then again, pigs do occasionally fly.  These days, we talk about Nixon's domestic failings (of which they are innumerable) but in the context of his diplomatic successes (Vietnam aside, but that's a pretty damn big "aside," of course).

    "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

    by auron renouille on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:39:19 PM PDT

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    •  Difference is that Carter spent his post- (4+ / 0-)

      presidential years building houses for the poor and showing what an incredible human being he is. W has shown up in public to give some speeches for money and that's it.

      President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

      by askew on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 08:02:23 PM PDT

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      •  Quite true, that. (2+ / 0-)
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        Dare I say, Carter's done a lot more good post-presidency than we ever allowed him to do as president.  I was born days before Reagan took office so I wasn't there but, while Ted Kennedy was amazing, I've always wondered what he had hoped to accomplish.  But, as I said, I wasn't alive then - maybe it was apparent that Carter had no chance?

        "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

        by auron renouille on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 08:13:01 PM PDT

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        •  I was in 2nd grade during Carter's re-election (1+ / 0-)
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          campaign, so I am not sure what was happening with Kennedy either. But, Carter is really a model of what to do with post-presidential platform.

          President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

          by askew on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 10:12:33 PM PDT

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    •  Well, Nixon had the EPA too. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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      "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

      by sagesource on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 08:31:18 PM PDT

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      •  Very true, that. (0+ / 0-)

        If not for that deeply authoritarian streak, he could have been remembered as a fairly pragmatic Republican.  Could Bush have gone to Tehran in the way that Nixon went to Beijing?  That one pretty much answers itself.  There's no way he would have gone anywhere near Iran without being preceded by the 101st Airborne

        "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

        by auron renouille on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 10:25:38 AM PDT

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