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  •  I think Production of Fossil Fuels has (0+ / 0-)

    always been a problem since the first oil wells were drilled in PA and no one had any clue what was to come.

    Eventually (back then) some sensible states like OH passed laws after seeing the fall-out. In fracking/shale play OH appears to have learned from prior mistakes and proactively passed revisions to Ohio's Revised Code that went into affect in I think June. (ORC 1509).

    It takes into consideration environmental, land-owner, etc and is the furthest reaching regulatory consideration of shale I know of.

    Considering there are something like 150,000 fracking wells in PA I don't think it deserves the label it gets which is as if it is a very isolated practice and has a 1 to 1 negative impact. It's simply not true.

    Beyond regulation land-owners can choose to not lease. Or demand certain terms.

    I don't think it is politically feasiable to create a moratorium. Nor necessary.

    What is needed is the curtain to come down, to verify what you set forth, or not, and allow for greater public comment and Private and Govt testing.

    •  This is (2+ / 0-)
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      wonmug, Agathena

      a shockingly naiive statement coming from an attorney.

      Beyond regulation land-owners can choose to not lease. Or demand certain terms.
      The oil companies have a lot of experience at their games.  Rural communities (much less individual landowners) are in no way sophisticated enough to think of it as negotiating on a level playing field.  It's like saying children should say no to their molesters.  Then if it doesn't work out for them, they can have recourse.

      So let me ask you this.  My neighbor across the road leases his 200 acres to be fracked.  He's demanded whatever "terms" you're talking about and got them.  He doesn't live here.  I live directly across the road.  I bought the house on 1 acre across from the vast wooded area that is soon to be fracked.  How's that working out for me?  Should I just go frack myself?

      •  I'm sorry to hear that Xavier (1+ / 0-)
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        The industry should consult all the neighbor and not go forward until they all agree.

        The home land owner is going up against a billion dollar corporation that has government support and very little oversight.

        No matter what, fracking produces tons of contaminated waste water which is either put into ponds or injected back into the earth. This alone will damage the surrounding environment.

        This is what I read today

        We live on the edge of a huge natural gas field, so we've had a couple wells very close to us in the last few years. The company notified us about the last one before they started drilling, and we met with them (along with our neighbor) to 'discuss our concerns'. We really have no recourse other than contacting our elected representatives, which I did. You can bet the drilling went on.

        I did a lot of research before meeting with the company, and learned that above all, we didn't want them to be fracking with those nasty chemicals. They said they had to in order to get the gas out, so that was that.

        And they drill 24/7 until the well is done. They're LOUD. They're BRIGHT.
        [name withheld]

        ❧To thine ownself be true

        by Agathena on Wed Aug 15, 2012 at 06:24:01 PM PDT

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        •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

          people from Ohio and Pennsylvania drove here on their own dime to come and warn us.  They already explained to us how the games they play with leasing destroyed families and ultimately entire communities, pitting people at each other's throats over money.

          The traffic goes from what I have now -- hours going by without a single vehicle passing my house -- to 18-wheelers every 7 seconds 24 hours a day.

          Right now, one neighbor has a light about half a mile from my house.  Get ready for nighttime baseball.

          Drunk driving and crime rates from asshole oil workers went through the roof.  As did rental rates, so there was suddenly a homeless crisis.

          There's so much more, but it's too depressing.

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