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  •  the bigger challenge is the little towns and (3+ / 0-)

    cities that are going bankrupt and are short of vision and funds, their tax base is shrinking...that's why the first #1 step in any of this is to reelect PBO.

    I know,I know...and if we don't reelect we will still push for all these changes but at a magnitude of difficulty higher.

        But so many towns are just screwed up tight and don't barely collect the recycling if at all, and if they do allow it to be (illegally but seldom enforced by expensive police and court systems) harvested by homeless (who do a pretty good job of that small market driven economy) and absolutely no green waste recycling or collection or sorting, even at the waste transfer and collection points.

       Gas from trash energy sources and the like are on hold as are so many wind and solar projects because the money people will only proceed if they think they are going to get subsidies or not, if the markets are going to be supported with the helpful tax structures or not...

    It's an expensive and complicated process, separating the waste streams..and it takes a lot of social engineering.
        And any of this process is trolled 24/7 by RWers vandalizing the process at all levels cause they think it fun to annoy the hippies or some such shite.

    How to get this done or approved on a local level in the face of all this.
          SF, Seattle and other cities are great to take for examples, but on smaller tax base and population scales, how to get this done?

    This machine kills Fascists.

    by KenBee on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 11:51:11 PM PDT

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    •  The "expensive to do this" is... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...marketing from our dear "friends" the Carbon Merchants and their cousins the Financial Wizards. They develop and emphasize the narrowly framed cost calculations, and more importantly, they end up being the "judges" (through their influences and decisions in the Public issued debt markets) of what is "economically viable", "cost effective", "budget busting" etc.

      I'm not disputing that it is expensive and complicated, but let's bear in mind who is framing those conclusions. I often bring up the Germans and their commitment to expanding PV solar. They KNOW that they are paying a "market premium" for electricity in the near term in that investment. But they decided that "premium" is worth the upfront costs and whole range of benefits beyond the next handful of reporting quarters.

      And that expense is mostly in the form of jobs that currently don't exist. It takes human hands and judgement to separate any waste stream, and even Moore's Law probably won't measurably reduce the degree of labor intensity in that process in our lifetimes.

      When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 06:08:54 AM PDT

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