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  •  Firing the first shot only works (3+ / 0-)
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    when you're attacking from a position of strength. Obama is currently up on Cemetery Ridge, and Romney is unleashing his brilliant Pickett's Charge.

    I'm interested in hearing from folks so upset about this - do you really think the Romney lie about Obama will overcome the dirty truth about Romney-Ryan and their plan to destroy Medicare just because Rombot launched first?

    If we're sitting here a week after the GOP convention and OFA hasn't hammered Romney on the Medicare issue, then I'll worry. Right now, I think the campaign has been effective enough not to spark serious concern.  

    "Nach dem Spiel ist vor dem Spiel." ~Sepp Herberger

    by surfbird007 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 02:11:00 PM PDT

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    •  OFA is letting Ryan-Romney dig their own grave. (1+ / 0-)
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      He's out campaigning on new energy policy and tying the do nothing Congress to their failure to pass a farm bill this year, while the RR campaign is reacting to last Sunday's bitch fest over the Ryan plan.

      It was less than 48 hours from Romney's VP announcement to him having to distance himself from the Ryan plan.   Yesterday Romney couldn't even list ways that his plan was different from Ryan's plan.

      Romney is not out in front on any of this.  Romney announced Ryan sooner than he planned to, because he had to change the subject in a hurry.  

      Desperately tried to avoid having this past Sunday talk shows be about Romneycare/Obamacare.

      •  Still, it sticks in the craw. (2+ / 0-)
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        This isn't really as much of a criticism as it sounds, but I really sticks in my craw that Obama, OFA, the Democrats, Reid, Pelosi, WHOEVER has not yet made the case to the public for Obamacare, and talking about cuts from Medicare to pay for it just rub salt in the wounds.

        I've seen LOTS of reasonable, methodical, mind-changing explanations about it on this board.

        We need to have ads run to get the message out to the voters. Letting this slide under the table because it opens old wounds is no excuse. The GOP is HOPING to bleed us with it.

        And please, that Obama is out there tying the GOP to the do nothing congress is relativistically speaking, meaningless. Obama is not running for congress.

        And the farm bill. Oh yes, well Obama's in Iowa. I'm sure there are a dozen conglomerate farmers in Des Moines watching that issue closely.

        What separates us, divides us, and diminishes the human spirit.

        by equern on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 04:57:24 PM PDT

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        •  Are you bitching to me, or just bitching to hear (1+ / 0-)
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          yourself bitch?

          IMHO you have serious tunnel vision and are missing the forest as you focus on your favorite tree, Obamacare.  

          Obamacare is my favorite tree too, but if you care to broaden your perspective on campaign strategy consider my comments in the thread that includes this one,

          I think you're mistaken that Obamacare is sliding under the table.  OFA and DNC waited (wisely IMO) until after the SCOTUS ruling to go on the offensive.  If you stop and think about it that was really prudent.

          If SCOTUS had ruled the other way, everything on the record by the Dems would have been used to write attack ads against them.  

          Since you think that the do-nothing Congress is a non-issue I'll not bore you with the facts.

    •  They are wringing their hands raw (3+ / 0-)

      Same people who were freaking out about how great a pick Paul Ryan was and that we are all doomed.  There is a level of concern and then there's trollish concern.  It's always the same culprits.  

      "I am neither bitter nor cynical but I do wish there was less immaturity in political thinking." Franklin D. Roosevelt

      by djbender on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 02:38:17 PM PDT

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