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  •  And when they hire 'experts' (2+ / 0-)
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    FinchJ, grover

    those are from places which are naturally greener, instead of getting people with the right kind of expertise.

    I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

    by trumpeter on Wed Aug 15, 2012 at 01:58:00 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, this is true the world over. (9+ / 0-)

      There are quite a few projects in Africa both north and south of the Sahara. Too often Western aid approaches the projects in a very inappropriate fashion- and fails.

      But in the last thirty years and especially in the last decade, the application of agroecology and sometimes permaculture from both outside the region as aid and indigenous innovation is changing the face of these brittle nations.

      Paul Wheaton has had some good podcasts recently about this. 192-Greening the Sahara is more to the point while 195-Geoff Lawton on his Food Forest DVD less so, but still appropriate.

      I especially liked in the latter podcast how Geoff Lawton (a world renowned permaculture designer) said that much of the world could very well be left behind in developing these techniques by N Africa and the Middle East. The permaculture research institute he works for is involved in quite a few projects across the region (well, the world really), but they have seen a huge uptick in interest from the governments. I would say that the demonstration site in Jordan had a lot to do with this. There is even a project just outside of Mecca.

      I guess what I'm trying to say is that the aid paradigm we are used to seeing, the one where large agribusinesses and charity organizations in the West stay in business and profit while local farmers lose their ability to stay on the land (brain drain from rural to urban areas is a worldwide problem) and become reliant upon hand outs is going to come to an end soon.

      Agroecology has demonstrably increased the quality of life, restored environments, and will continue to do so as former aid recipient governments make the effort to empower their people rather than remain perpetually at the mercy of Western aid.

      A Victory Garden documents my family's experience transitioning from suburban lawn to edible food forest based on permaculture principles. A new blog following my life as an immigrant in Finland will be up soon.

      by FinchJ on Wed Aug 15, 2012 at 02:15:51 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks for the good news. We need it. (3+ / 0-)
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        I used to know many good scientists in the hydrology dept at the U. of Arizona but most of them have retired since I managed grants with the U. of A.

        The industrial model of agriculture is failing but there's hope for better.

        look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

        by FishOutofWater on Wed Aug 15, 2012 at 06:21:20 PM PDT

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        •  Its the good news that keeps me running. (1+ / 0-)
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          There was a time about three/four years ago when I wish I had never learned about the status of world affairs- our empire, torture, climate change, wealth disparity, the whole basket of lies- and wanted to forget it all. I didn't think there was anything we could do.

          Then I saw Greening the Desert* shortly after watching Willie Smits' presentation to TED on their re-rainforestation effort to meet the needs of the local population and orangutans. Putting the two together I realized- wait, we can restore forest systems in places where rain falls only a couple inches per year... and forests the world over create rain.

          If we can successfully regreen these damaged ecosystems, we will with many small blows combat climate change, poverty, social exclusion, hopelessness, and ennui. Since then I've been doing what I can when I can to get to my goal of being a permaculture designer.

          And today I'm one step closer as my residency permit has been approved by the Finnish authorities.  Keeping my fingers crossed...

          *The second site is going to close canopy within five years, as the shade deepens the reliance on ground water will drop to nothing (This is the plan)

          A Victory Garden documents my family's experience transitioning from suburban lawn to edible food forest based on permaculture principles. A new blog following my life as an immigrant in Finland will be up soon.

          by FinchJ on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 12:39:29 AM PDT

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      •  Israel has pioneered much of this (0+ / 0-)

        and, I believe, partnered with U of Ariz on desert agriculture projects.

        Israel developed the drip and soaker irrigation.

        I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... *I'm asking you to believe in yours.* Barack Obama

        by samddobermann on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 03:08:26 PM PDT

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