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  •  The comments in this thread crack me up. (4+ / 0-)
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    ororis, claude, My Spin, Lilredhead

    Where are the posters who for the last four years cautioned that the President didn't dare fight back or risk being branded 'the angry negro?'

    Where are the posters who complained that fighting the GOP on their ground meant diving into the muck, while forgetting studiously ignoring that if you have to fight a pig, the muck is where it's going to happen?

    Where are the posters who claimed those of us who wanted Democrats and liberals to stand up to conservatives wanted the Administration and Congress to yell and scream, and are they noticing that all it takes to fight back is firm resolve and presistence, not pounding a fist on a table, as we suggested?

    Where are those posters, and are they ready to admit that they were dead fucking wrong as usual?

    The real enemy of the good is not the perfect, but the mediocre.

    by Orange County Liberal on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 12:26:10 PM PDT

    •  It isnt that simple (4+ / 0-)
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      too wanted the prez to fight back but u must understand that not everyone is a political junkie who reads blogs like DK. The prez had to build a reservoir of good will and show that he did try, repeatedly to work with these wignuts only to be rebuffed again and again.

      The first called him weak and wimpy to goad him into reaction--Jan Brewer pointed a finger in his face and said whatever to him --she then went on Fox and called him "angry" --still prez didnt bite.

      Now in election season--he is now in campaign mode after being the perfect conciliatory gentlemen for 3.5 years...he's going after him and even the most tone deaf voter knows that the prez has tried to work with repubs and now romney's attempt at portraying him as angry is falling on deaf ears.

      remember this quote?

      "Mr president, take your divise, angry campaign back to Chicago"

      Check out the code works "angry" {{black man}}
      Chicago {{urban city with a large black population}}

      •  "Build a reservoir of good will?" (0+ / 0-)

        With historical majorities in both houses of Congress and a record personal approval rating on the day he took office?

        Give me a fucking break.

        This is exactly the sort of nonsense I'm talking about.

        The real enemy of the good is not the perfect, but the mediocre.

        by Orange County Liberal on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 08:23:47 PM PDT

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        •  I hope u r still reading this... (0+ / 0-)

          As I apologize for not checking back on my quote.

          Historical majorities? Did u forget about the GOP unprecedented obstruction and the prescence of Blue Dog Senate Dems?

          From day one, the GOP decided that they would obstruct him..GOP moderates were told to toe the party line or else. As a result, he had to cut deals because the supposed 60 vote super majority never fully materialized.

          First, they fought Al Franken and delayed his confirmation for months.

          Second, Byrd and Kennedy were sick and eventually passed.

          Then there was Lieberman, Nelson, Lincoln, Bayh, Pryor and to a smaller extent, Landrieu who all exacted a heavy price on all major legislation for their votes.

          Did he make mistakes? Could he have fought harder on some issues --Sure, but hey every new prez has a learning curve and I thought he really believed that he could work with these wingnuts. I am sure that there were also establishment Dems who were pissed at the fact that he didnt wait his turn and played hardball during policy negotiations.

          I aslo think he should have never shut down OFA but I am sure he was warned by corporatist dems who were scared of a mamoth grassroots progressive movement--another mistake

          Lastly, Blago's idiocy cost us the the IL senate seat.

          We probably had 60 votes for only a few months at best and the media still blamed him for ramming thru ACA and other bills. They claim he got everything he wanted in the first two years, but never seem to mention the GOP filibusters. The house blue Dogs were a pain in the ass as they delayed and watered down bills---I remember Mike Ross bragging on how he delayed the ACA.

          Keep that in mind--and he still was able to pass ACA or Obamacare, Lily ledbetter, Wall street reform, ended Dont ask dont tell, and 800B stimulus and more.

    •  Good that we seem to have learned. (0+ / 0-)

      Do your duty, demand your rights.

      by Baldus on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 12:59:05 PM PDT

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