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  •  Thanks for those (4+ / 0-)
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    Bob Love, Sandino, bronte17, bluedust

    Good links, and thanks for looking out for my career. You probably have no reason to believe that this was actually well-received and did not prompt angry comments from most of the people who tweeted it. And if you read the articles you linked to, you'll notice that I'm quoted in one of them. The author is interviewing me after having read this very same article, because he thought the info was important and doesn't feel the emotional need to attack me for my writing no matter how he feels about it.

    Don't want to imply that the crowd was kind of mean perhaps simply because I came off the wrong way, but yes, that was bizarre and you in particular should think about why you chose to post those kinds of comments on a blog by someone who obviously cares about what he's trying to get people to listen to. "YOUR WRITING IS BAD" is your opinion, and I wish you liked my other article, but I get a lot of comments from people on the internet and all of them are very sure that they are behaving properly.

    Incidentally, part of reason the thing was how it was is because I wrote in on evening of my birthday, after going out to dinner and having a lot of drinks, and then hanging at home with my gf drinking a great deal of coffee. That I did it then is because of timing of newspaper pulldown and a couple other facts that we became aware of just then.

    The result is what it is, and my excitability has a great deal to do with my personal connection to the issue, which I know better to talk about here. I really don't appreciate the responses I got here, and I know that pointing out the differences in how it was received elsewhere will not stop people from thinking about why they took the time to criticize an activist rather than ignoring his flaws and looking at what a large corporation is doing, even with just the links to other articles.

    •  You SHOULD appreciate the comments you got here (7+ / 0-)

      because they were accurate.  Your previous diary sucked and you know it, the writing WAS bad, and if you intend to have a career in writing you'd better get tough enough to tolerate blunt criticism.

      Stop writing about yourself, your sensitivity to others, how circumstances are responsible for your shortcomings, your gf, your cv and your twitter following, and start thinking about the best way to do justice to your subjects.

      If I sound hostile it's because you took a potentially valid topic and, deliberately or not, made it inaccessible to others through poor writing and a failure to simply re-read what you'd written. Your diary was an insult to your subject and to us here at dailykos.

      If you're going to be an activist you need to take your writing and your audience seriously, and in this case you failed at both.

      "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

      by Bob Love on Fri Aug 17, 2012 at 03:15:18 AM PDT

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    •  I might add that the expectations for tweets (2+ / 0-)
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      are different and lower than those here and in most other written media.

      Tweets are expected to be immediate, informal and off-the-cuff, with a premium on speed, so sloppiness is often the norm and editing almost unheard-of. Speed and immediacy, however, have little or nothing to do with cogency.

      Cogency isn't all that opinionable. No one here understood or cared what your last diary was about, and this means you failed your audience. If you assumed people here would respond like your twitter following, you assumed wrong. Your twitter following was likely already familiar with your topic, for one thing, and therefore didn't need the synopsis or declaration of subject that virtually all other writing requires.

      Lesson: If you think your audience has failed you, you've made a wrong assumption somewhere, and you'll never figure out where you went wrong if you go on blaming them for your own inability to get through.

      I would also note that the article you mention did not quote your writing, but prompted a further request for something quotable. If your writing isn't quotable, that's not a good thing.

      And yes, I seem to have over-adopted you for this evening/morning, but I believe the world not only needs writer-activists desperately, but needs them to be at the top of their game, not muddling around struggling to make minimal sense.

      I'll go now.  Best of luck.

      "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

      by Bob Love on Fri Aug 17, 2012 at 04:15:03 AM PDT

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