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  •  OFA Medicare ad out (4+ / 0-)
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    bythesea, MichaelNY, DCCyclone, pademocrat

    Nothing to the gut, yet, and is pretty average:

    Hail to the king, baby.

    by KingofSpades on Fri Aug 17, 2012 at 11:01:06 AM PDT

    •  This seems kind of... (2+ / 0-)
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      KingTag, MichaelNY

      Like an ad OFA had to run because the media was starting to question why they weren't.

      Keeper of the DKE glossary. Priceless: worth a lot; not for sale.

      by SaoMagnifico on Fri Aug 17, 2012 at 11:05:02 AM PDT

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    •  I like it (6+ / 0-)

      They don't want to "politicize" the issue by making it too aggressive an attack. They want people to believe the underlying facts, which are obviously true. So they turn to respected sources to support all the claims.

      We'll get to the ominous stuff later. This is all about getting skeptical and/or low-information voters to accept the basic premise.

    •  It's straightforward with facts from AARP (2+ / 0-)
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      itskevin, MichaelNY

      The AARP logo is on the screen so much it looks like it's their ad.  I think it's a good idea to lay out facts in an evenhanded manner, rather than getting into a battle of cartoonish claims that get dismissed as mudslinging.

      •  I keep going back (5+ / 0-)
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        MBishop1, KingTag, askew, skibum59, MichaelNY

        to that quote from Priorities USA that they couldn't get people to believe the TRUE claims about the House budget. People in focus groups just weren't buying it, they didn't think it was possible for the GOP to be so extreme and/or politically stupid.

        With Paul Ryan on the ticket, it probably makes the sell easier, but there's still a "believability" hurdle we need to get over. Voters need to get on board with the basic premise. I think it's easier for that to happen if 1) the news media reports what's actually in the bills (which believe it or not they've now been doing); and 2) we offer ads, at first anyway, that are fact-driven and not too slick or aggressive.

        •  Based on your comments, this sort of (3+ / 0-)
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          ad makes more sense. It's quite easy to imagine a backlash against us and/or more support for Romney and Ryan if we go overboard and accuse them of something that sounds comically evil. Establishing authority on the issue is key, which is why, among other things, seeing the AARP included is great. What they've done in the past speaks for itself; there's really no need to lie. We just need to get people to believe us, and if we warm them up to heavier attacks that will come later in the game (if necessary), they might be more receptive to them.

          In a more general sense, I think we have to trust OFA. I second guess them at least as much as anyone else, but they know what they are doing and that they've been handed a huge weapon. Hopefully without sounding like I am trying to abuse the facts to establish a narrative, this past week has been one gift after another for OFA, as DCCyclone has noted. In a lot of ways, just keeping quiet might have been the best strategy. Now, we can save our attacks, and the resources behind them, for the remaining weeks.

          "The election of Mitt Romney and a supporting congress this November would be a...disaster for America. Think of the trainwreck that has been the Conservative government in Britain since 2010. And square it."--Brad DeLong

          by bjssp on Fri Aug 17, 2012 at 12:10:16 PM PDT

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