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  •  He violated terms of his bail (1+ / 0-)
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    and requested (and was granted) political asylum, these are not mutually exclusive. If Mr. Assange can get himself to Ecuador then the Ecuadorian's can treat him however they wish.  The Brits, however have this little problem with a guy they let loose in their country under the agreement that he would present himself to the court when called, who has chosen to renege on that agreement.

    The specific issues of Swedish law are for the Swedes to work out when they get the subject of their warrant in their custody.

    Mr. Assange may be able to prove himself innocent of all charges against him, but he's got to actually follow through with the process, at this point every time someone gave him some slack (the Swedes could have prevented him from leaving, but didn't, the Brits could have let him moulder in jail, but didn't) he rewards that trust with a slap in the face when things don't go his way.

    •  The political asylum elides into the bail issue (0+ / 0-)

      though. Or the bail elides into the asylum. Whatever.

      I'm not versed in the legalities of it.

      There really was no "bail jumping" per se to be accurate.

      The political asylum supposedly could not be offered to a "criminal", but let's get real here... it has happened quite often in the past and been fully supported by the governments.

      Furthermore, Assange is not a criminal. He has not officially been charged with any crime. He is simply wanted for questioning and the extradition was set in place to accomplish that supposed objective.


      In my honor he pulled out old forgotten dignity and walked straight in a crooked world. ~~poetry of young Barack Obama

      by bronte17 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 at 03:34:01 PM PDT

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      •  Sorry, asylum does not "elide" bail. (0+ / 0-)

        Ecuador's political decision has no bearing on the legal standing of Assange with regard to the British courts.

        Much like Pinochet's protection by the British government, had no legal bearing on the Spanish government's war crimes charges. (However, it obviously had the practical effect of his not standing trial.)

        I haven't called him a criminal, just pointed out the only crimes for which charges or warrants exist.

        There is no "rule" that states that political asylum can't be granted to criminals.  As its name states it is a political decision. Many criminals (individuals convicted of crimes in their home countries) have been granted political asylum in both the US and UK.

        (and elide doesn't mean what you think it may)

        •  heh... thanks for the info (0+ / 0-)

          You'll find I have a love of language and no fear of applying words in punk fashion when it suits me.

          Elision most certainly can be borrowed and framed to merge for a moment in time.


          In my honor he pulled out old forgotten dignity and walked straight in a crooked world. ~~poetry of young Barack Obama

          by bronte17 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 06:00:05 PM PDT

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