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  •  The PA DMV website does clarify payment options: (3+ / 0-)

    1] Go here:

    http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/...
    2] Click this (the first link on the Driver's License/Photo ID Information Center page): Obtaining a Driver's License (DL)

    3] Read that:

    Step 3:

    Visit a Driver License Center with:

        * The completed DL-180
        * The completed DL-180TD (if under the age 18). This form must be completed by a parent, guardian, or spouse who is 18 years of age or older.
        * Proof of identity, which is listed on reverse side of DL-180. Note: If you are changing your name, you must present original documents supporting name changes such as a marriage certificate, divorce decree or court order.
        * Two acceptable proofs of residency, listed on reverse side of DL-180, if you are 18 years of age or older. Proof of residency is not required if you are age 16 or 17.
        * Your Social Security card.
        * A check or money order payable to PennDOT for the appropriate fee. (Cash is not accepted.)

    (emphasis added)

    You could have been properly prepared.

    It seems curiosity has killed the cat that had my tongue.

    by Murphoney on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 07:56:23 AM PDT

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    •  wouldn't have gone through that page (4+ / 0-)

      Would have gone through the page for new residents, which links to the fees page (see comment above yours) but (AFAICS) doesn't say anything about payment types.

      Clearly PennDOT wasn't trying to withhold this information, but certainly I can see how the diarist could have missed it despite spending considerable time trying to understand the requirements. Been there, done that (not in PA).

    •  thanks for pointing out. Still denied free voterID (0+ / 0-)

      Thanks for pointing that out. Okay, yes I missed it, and it was on the website. That said, the restriction to no cash or credit card really is a barrier, and a senseless one as discussed elsewhere in this thread. Also, all the subsequent stuff regarding the free voter ID was the part I was suprised to find out, and that seems illegal. I didn't intend to seek a free voter ID when I entered the office, but I ended up trying to get one because of my error reading the website, and that DMV office denied me a free voter ID.

      •  It is difficult to conclude that the DMV "denied" (0+ / 0-)

        you a free ID when it is equally or more likely that it was the incompetence of one civil servant who:

        - was misinformed and misinformed you as to the date of availability of the free ID and who...

        - did not mention the possibility that you could turn in your out-of-state license to obtain a free ID because they...

        - made the (bad?) assumption that you would not want to relinquish your privilege to drive in order to obtain a free Voter ID that would be made superfluous when you obtained your PA Driver's License (in which you had already announced your interest)

        It's only true that not all civil servant customer service representatives are intelligent enough and/or motivated enough to actually be helpful in all situations.

        It seems curiosity has killed the cat that had my tongue.

        by Murphoney on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 09:27:07 AM PDT

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