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  •  You've Got to Be Shootting Me. (5+ / 0-)

    There does not exist, in the historical record of humanity, a widely known figure who persuaded fewer of the people to accept his ideas, out of those who claim to follow them, than Jesus of Nazareth.

    I defy anyone to name a sect or denomination of self proclaimed Christians that doesn't teach and practice the exact opposite of multiple teachings of his as recorded in the quotational material they nonetheless preserve.

    Jesus of Nazareth is the greatest famous failure of persuasion humanity has ever produced.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 08:49:14 PM PDT

    •  he predicted that (4+ / 0-)

      Matt 7:13-14 (KJV):

      13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

      14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

      (I'm not religious, but I'm somewhat familiar with the literature.)
    •  Christianity did not take off as a religion (1+ / 0-)
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      until Paul popularized it and decided to pitch it to the Gentiles as opposed to keeping it Jewish as Peter wished. The second event was Constantine adopting it as the state religion for purely religious reasons.

      Nicea was where Constantine got to transform the religion into a hierarchy, along the lines of Roman government

      •  Which Jews where? Judea or Diaspora? (0+ / 0-)

        Some researches claim that the Ministry to the Jews elsewhere in the Roman empire was wildly successful.

        -We need Healthcare Reform... but i'm selfish, I Need Healthcare reform-

        by JPax on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 10:58:44 PM PDT

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