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  •  I see them as living in a world where the Koch's (0+ / 0-)

    and the Exxon's buy hundreds of millions of dollars worth of advertising every year and have control of the content of the Media Trusts.

    I think that is a much stronger argument than the claim that Neil DeGrasse Tyson is a "bad communicator".

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    by JesseCW on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 06:09:19 AM PDT

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    •  I didn't say Neil DeGrasse Tyson is a bad (0+ / 0-)

      communicator. On the contrary, he is an excellent communicator for the reasons listed above. He has the ability to tell a good story, to employ metaphor and analogies, while simultaneously teaching his audience [those who need it] a new vocabulary.

      I would say the same of Bill Nye, Carl Sagan, and Michio Kaku.

      Anyone willing to really engage these speakers will learn something [if not a lot of things], but therein lies the rub.

      People who are already hostile to science are not going to be active listeners.  And not every Scientist is going to be as engaging as these men, used as examples in this discussion.

      So if you combine hostility of the *laity with the hostility and mental exhaustion of the Scientific community [dealing with concerted institutionalized attacks on science via religion and politics, then there isn't going to be much communicating at all.

      Everyone is pissed off.

      No one is talking or listening to each other, other than to lob more insults at each other for every slight [real or imagined].

      It's sad really. Because if these groups worked together, then we could accomplish a lot, but that requires mutual respect. I think that the implementation of Citizen Science Programs has done a lot to heal the breech to a limited degree. But we have a long way to go. And the forces that oppose that healing are organized and insidious.

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