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  •  As it happens, I am using Amtrak already (9+ / 0-)

    to commute between northern and southern California.

    It's not the case at all that Downtown LA is your only stop. In addition to all the rail stops (there's one in the Anaheim stadium parking lot quite convenient to Disneyland), Amtrak has a fleet of buses that extends its range in all directions.

    As it happens, I am not near an airport, nor is my typical Southern California destination. By the time I drive to an airport bus, board the airport bus, wait for my flight, fly, then take an airport shuttle to my final destination, I've spent far more time (and often more money) on the ground than I have in the air. So a 1 hour air trip actually takes me about 6 hours or a bit more to complete by the time all the schedules and slack and waiting come together.

    As it happens, both my endpoints are near Amtrak-served locations. I can take a bus just 20 minutes from my house to Amtrak, and arrive by train 10 minutes from my final destination. The total trip takes around 9 hours, costs less than I paid for ground-only transport for my air travel, and for most of it I can sit and work productively.

    Once it's train all the way from the Bay Area to LA, it will be profoundly better; once the HSR is running the full length, it will be much faster than my doorstep to doorstep for air travel, as well as being more convenient.

    There's less sprawl in California than you might realize... and the way to turn it around is to have options like high speed rail so that you don't need acres of parking for every possible destination, and so that people have a reason to colocate walking distance from a train station.

    No one, anywhere, is walking distance from an airport.

    Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

    by elfling on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 01:15:27 PM PDT

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    •  Your point is excellent (1+ / 0-)
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      but I will let you know that here in Key West, I can walk to the airport, and I do unless it's raining!  (We also have a good bus system that will take me there, but mostly I ride my bike....)

      Still enjoying my stimulus package.

      by Kevvboy on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 03:33:41 PM PDT

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      •  They better let me take my bike on (4+ / 0-)
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        the HSR trains or I'll be pissed.  I really wouldn't mind a quick trip from Oakland to LA for some museums or whatever.

        There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

        by AoT on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 04:41:02 PM PDT

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