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  •  I do wish you and so many others (14+ / 0-)

    Wouldn't go over to those sites. Some can do it and walk away amused. But too many Kossacks I know admit it upsets, angers or drains them. More than one person has said to me  that we should have a decontamination unit. They know they leave Red State, come here and tend to be snippy with others, even though they try not to.

    We can't walk through the Valley of Darkness without it wearing on us.

    If I may be so presumptuous as to give you unsolicited advice: let the others do it. Or, at least, take some time off. It's just going to get uglier through the election.

    Sigh. I don't understand how people can be so hateful. I see hate. I recognize it.  I know it. I understand that people can be hateful to people they don't understand and fear. But this sort of hate, I don't get.

    I do hope the rest of your evening is peaceful.

    © grover

    So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

    by grover on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 02:01:39 AM PDT

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    •  Thank you, grover, for your concern for my (6+ / 0-)

      well-being. I assure you that I am fine. Actually, I find it very useful to visit redstate every once in a while to compare points of view and try to understand the logic behind right-wing thinking. One thing that upsets me about my right-wing father is that he forms his opinions in an echo-chamber.

      Reading the post at redstate last night, helped to clarify my own opinions. Writing helps me to analyze the issue. That rant was my way of sorting things out in my own mind. If I had met the writer of that post in person, and he used his argument, I would have been caught off-guard because on the surface it almost sounds reasonable. Reading the argument, and then thinking it through helped me to intellectually articulate how I would frame my response in person.

      Abortion is an issue that has never affected me personally. In fact, I was never able to have children. My personal opinion has always been that generally speaking, abortion is not a choice I would make for myself because I wanted to have children. But, I don't know what choice I would make if there were more complicated issues involved that affected my health or the health of my potential child. Also, I have always believed that I do not have the right to inflict what I would do for myself on another person. Every body's situation is different, and each individual in the country has the right to make choices that are best for their personal situation.

      I don't understand this kind of hate, either. I went back and read the comments to the post at redstate. It was enlightening to see that there were some reasonable voices in the reactions. The people who argued in support of the post were firm in their "convictions." Everything was black & white for them. They believed that they had to  stand up for their convictions, no matter what. Others pointed out that they agreed with the convictions that abortions should be 100% illegal in this country with no exceptions, but 80% of this country didn't agree with them. Their stance was that in order to win their war, they had to back down on voicing their convictions and get Republicans elected so that they could push through their legislative agenda. They want to get Republicans elected by saying one thing, and then doing something completely different. And there were one or two who did not agree with the 100% stance against abortions. In that world, they were the minority that the others tried to silence by calling them things like "moron" for their views.

      What Akin did was articulate the beliefs of 20% of this country ... the loud minority, who want to force their beliefs onto the entire country. As outrageous as his comments were, I'm glad Akin made them because it exposed for all to see what the Republican Party today represents, and what they would do to this country if they were to win the White House, Senate and House. This is not the Republican Party of small government and fiscal conservatism of our parents and grandparents. This is the Republican Party with an extreme social agenda, hiding behind the mask of what the Republican Party used to stand for.

      For me, Mitt reminds me of Jeff Bridges in Starman. He's like an alien that hasn't read the entire manual. You know, he's going, "Nice to be in a place where the trees are the right size. -- Robin Williams on Letterman 26 Apr 2012

      by hungrycoyote on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:36:57 AM PDT

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      •  I appreciate those who have (4+ / 0-)
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        the stomach to go there, so I don't have to do so -- we need to know what the "other side" is saying so we can figure out how to reach them or at least counter their lies.

        "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

        by Cali Scribe on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 09:35:47 AM PDT

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      •  My coworker, who has been a (6+ / 0-)

        Republican voter, probably his entire life, listens to Limbaugh and Beck, etc, and HE brought the issue of the Republican attacks on women up to ME. He's happily married to a woman that doesn't want children and he doesn't want kids, either. He's flabbergasted that they're even bringing this thing up. We talked about how radical the Republicans have gotten. I said to him; "Can you imagine John McCain being their candidate TODAY? They scared the MAVERICK out of that guy!" He laughed his ass off.

        Yep. They awakened the sleeping giant. My coworker was 13 in 1969. He grew up when kids were kickin it and having a blast. He's not uptight like that. His wife can't get pregnant at her age anymore but he's not with that shit at all.

        "It's not enough to acknowledge privilege. You have to resist." -soothsayer

        by GenXangster on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 09:59:25 AM PDT

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