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  •  Americans-- left, right, center-- (10+ / 0-)

    are ready for new parties that actually reflect their needs and their wants. That's the only explanation for the sort of alternating mandates we've been seeing. Each election is a big fuck you to whichever Party is in power.

    Inertia and habit are the obstacles. If a third party ever gains traction in a Presidential race, makes a credible showing even if falling short, the dam will break and the entire political landscape will be up for grabs.

    When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill...

    by PhilJD on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:53:48 AM PDT

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    •  Sincerely, Teddy Roosevelt nt (0+ / 0-)

      Note to self, stop before I emulate the habits described in this diary.

      by Rustbelt Dem on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 07:11:18 PM PDT

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      •  Cosigned, The Whigs. nt (0+ / 0-)

        When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill...

        by PhilJD on Fri Aug 24, 2012 at 05:02:08 AM PDT

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        •  And when (1+ / 0-)
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          You have a party composed by two wings, diametrically opposed to each other in regard the fundamental ideological issue of the day and trying to ignore it, that analogy will be apt.

          Here is what is happening IMO.  We are seeing the consolidation of the middle of the country, a process that Clinton started and Obama is continuing.  We have one party that has marginalized themselves in terms of ideology and demographics, becoming evermore so contained to the South and rural West. And the only thing keeping it barely afloat is unlimited money (proving to be ineffective) and blatant race hatred. That is not the path to sustainability.  Sure, there are still enough voters to swing an off presidential election with low turnout, but that won't last forever.

          At the same time, you have the other party has marginalized its own ideological wing, due in no small part to the fact that it is ineffective.

          This isn't the first time this has happened.  During the first gilded age (I'll use 1872-1868 as a shorthand, but that isn't really definitive), there were wild fluctuations in regard to congressional elections (amplified more by the fact that the Senate was indirectly elected, so those waves would have to reach into the state houses as well) and some of the worst labor unrest not inflicted by the Ford Service Department.  Eventually, one side will win out in such a period of flux.  

          Phil, compare the current electoral map predictions to this, and remember that the parties stand for exactly the opposite these days then they did during that time.  

          Note to self, stop before I emulate the habits described in this diary.

          by Rustbelt Dem on Fri Aug 24, 2012 at 06:03:16 AM PDT

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