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  •  The thing is (39+ / 0-)

    if those guys are active duty, they can kiss their careers goodbye.

    If they're not, there's not much anybody can do other than call them out on it.

    Which is what is happening.

    You can't do swiftboating on something that happened LAST YEAR. It's too soon, people remember.

    It's easier years later, because people forget, die, stuff gets lost, etc.

    And besides, this wasn't some minor thing that might have been made to seem more important than it was. This was a MAJOR operation, in a foreign country, taking out a major player.

    Trying to rewrite this is like trying to rewrite Eisenhower's role in D-Day. In 1945. It's not going to happen.

    •  IIRC higher-rank retired military are still held (3+ / 0-)
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      by law to a certain standard of behavior re the civilian authorities. It has (again IIRC) something to do with the conditions of "retirement"--they are separated from the service but recallable in times of emergency.

      Now I may be wrong about this
      --but if that is the case, then sometime on the morning of November 7, after the champagne bottles are cleared away in the West Wing, I expect to see the current (& future!) Administration come down on those seditious sonsofbitches like a killer asteroid. "Chicago-style politics?" You ain't seen nuffin' yet, jerkoffs. Pensions? Poof. TRICARE? Hasta la vista. Security clearances (for them as are sucking at the taxpayers' teats in some minimal-effort big-bucks "defense" job)? Say goodnight, dicks. Let their bazillionaire puppet-masters support them in their old age. (More to the point, let them find out the hard way that those gimlet-eyed bastards will drop them like used toilet paper once they've passed their useful-until date.)

      Fuck the mythical “moral high ground”. There’s plenty of time to shower after the election. (h/t danah gaz (fka gaz) @ Balloon-Juice)

      by Uncle Cosmo on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:50:46 AM PDT

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      •  That's pretty much all military (2+ / 0-)
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        For a certain length of time after you get out you can be recalled. Don't remember what it is, and I think it varies.

        So if they just recently got out, yes, they could be recalled. But that's not something that happens very often. And very rarely to retired.

        •  Just to be clear, I wasn't suggesting (1+ / 0-)
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          they be recalled--only that if they are subject to recall, they may still be subject to some subset of military regulations, & that if they have overstepped those regulations (e.g., by disrespecting superior officers such as the Commander in Chief), the Administration might be able to restrict or eliminate their after-retirement benefits like pensions, health care, and security clearances.

          Fuck the mythical “moral high ground”. There’s plenty of time to shower after the election. (h/t danah gaz (fka gaz) @ Balloon-Juice)

          by Uncle Cosmo on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 03:36:59 PM PDT

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