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  •  Is your argument that we should not care if (0+ / 0-)

    Assange is repeatedly raped?

    Do you really want to go there?

    All Cretans are sockpuppets. -- Epimenides the Cretan

    by JesseCW on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 04:59:41 PM PDT

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    •  Your assumption (0+ / 0-)

      Assumes you have already found Assange guilty in the USA of an unspecified crime following extradition from Sweden which has not yet been requested by the US Government.

      This is despite protestations by many that his removal to Sweden implies that he has already been found guilty of rape.

      Yet other objections to a possible deportation are that he would be held uder the same conditions as Bradley Manning and that extradition should be refused on the grouds that would breach his Article 3 rights. My understanding is that Manning is in virtually complete isolation. How would this allow him to be raped?

      Your only premise appears to be that the conditions in Federal prisons amount to cruel and unusual punishment for all inmates, Surely that should be a matter for the domestic US courts system and political action there?

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      by Lib Dem FoP on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 08:03:23 PM PDT

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      •  Manning has been repeatedly stripped naked (1+ / 0-)
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        and paraded in front of other inmates.

        That is to say, he's been threatened with rape repeatedly in an effort to break him down.

        The conditions in our Federal Prisons do amount to cruel and unusual punishment for all inmates.  Subjecting anyone to them constitutes subjecting them to torture.

        That should be an issue for any nation with the slightest concern for human rights when it comes to extraditing anyone to the US.

        That being said, Political Prisoners are routinely subjected to extraordinarily harsh treatment in our prisons.  Google "Leonard Peltier" if you want a few examples.

        In Sweden, the Government decides whether or not to extradite.  Then the accused gets to appeal to the courts.  If the the Government signs a binding agreement with Ecuador that there will be no extradition, the issue is settled.

        All Cretans are sockpuppets. -- Epimenides the Cretan

        by JesseCW on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 06:22:44 AM PDT

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    •  Please read for comprehension: (0+ / 0-)

      Your Argument Applies To All Prisoners In The US

      If you are actually wanting to make that argument, then you're arguing that Nobody Should Go To Jail In The US, Ever.  And furthermore, that everyone currently in a US prison should get let out.

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