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    if said indians oppose Correa.

    Seriously, just read some human rights reports for once.  I don't care which NGO, take your pick.  As faulty as the US is, you're living in a fantasy world if you think it compares to a country where the leadership shuts down newspapers and jails dissidents with his own legal council writing the "judicial" opinions.

    •  Ah, so there it is, we now see (0+ / 0-)

      where you are coming from.  Human Rights?  How concerned about human rights were the governments there before Correa.  Why are oil companies having trouble keeping as much of their profits, the poor's standard of living increasing, education of the population increasing, and the press--which was part of the kind of "Faux News" type that supports and is supported by the elite power structure-- having difficulty with these changes?  Assange is merely wanting the world to know the truth about things and we should, as do now 34 South American countries--support the concept of asylum for those who are being politically attacked for showing some of things that differ from what those in power want us to see.

      Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. George Orwell

      by 6079SmithW on Mon Aug 27, 2012 at 12:21:12 AM PDT

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      •  Ecuador was no shining city on a hill (0+ / 0-)

        before Correa, but it's absurd to say that it hasn't gotten worse.  Ecuador's press freedom index has nearly doubled since he took office (high = bad).

        Please don't mix up Assange the person, and Wikileaks the organization.  A person can create a great organization that does great things... and also do some awful stuff.  Should we forgive Charles Lindbergh of his support of the Nazis, for example, just because of his transatlantic flight?  

        As much as you may want to pretend otherwise, Assange is wanted in Sweden specifically for accusations of rape.  Including waiting until a girl fell asleep so he could fuck her in ways she wouldn't let him do while awake.  His defense hardly even denies it, trying to claim that she was "only half asleep" (as if that'd be so-fucking-much better - if "groggy = consent" then "roofies = consent") and that she consented (a pretty ridiculous argument, in that not only does it contradict her testimony, and what she told friends long before there was a prospect of a trial, and not only in light of that his side has not contested that she had just spent all evening repeatedly refusing unprotected sex with him... but that she has a record a mile long of being utterly paranoid about STDs, even requiring her previous boyfriend of 2 1/2 years to get an STD test even though they were only having protected sex).

        This is what he is avoiding standing trial for.  If he's innocent, he'll get to clear his name, in one of the best court systems in the world.  If he's guilty, he'll go to jail for four years, then walk.  Either way, he'll then be more than free to hop the next plane to Ecuador if he so chooses.

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