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  •  It will sink more than Bolton (4.00)
    if one of the conversations Bolton asked about was between Colin Powell and Bill Richardson.  I have seen it reported that the NSA was monitoring conversations between those two concerning Korea.
    •  And more .... (4.00)
      Here's Sidney Blumenthal:

      Staff members on the committee believe that Bolton was probably spying on Powell, his senior advisers and other officials reporting to him on diplomatic initiatives that Bolton opposed. If so, it is also possible that Bolton was sharing this top-secret information with his neoconservative allies within the Pentagon and the vice-president's office, with whom he was in daily contact and who were known to be working in league against Powell.

      If the intercepts are released they may disclose whether Bolton was a key figure in a counter-intelligence operation run inside the Bush administration against the secretary of state, who would resemble the hunted character played by Will Smith in Enemy of the State.

      It is better to die standing than to live on your knees. - Emiliano Zapata

      by cotterperson on Sat May 07, 2005 at 10:26:50 AM PDT

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      •  It's worse than that (4.00)
        Did Bolton's path ever cross anyone from AIPAC, the analyst taken into custody this week, or Doug Feith?

        Did Bolton possibly leak any information to Israel for a quid pro quo?

        Why are is Cheney sticking his neck out, blocking this?  Is there something that stinks worse behind this?

    •  It was Wayne Madsen. (4.00)
      I remember who I saw reporting that.  It was Wayne Madsen, who seems to have NSA contacts.
      •  Madsen's take (4.00)
        The unholy trinity of electronic snooping: Bolton, Negroponte and Hayden


        The three key participants who have emerged as orchestrating the misuse of NSA and other U.S. intelligence resources to conduct surveillance of those who opposed neoconservative plans to invade Iraq and ratchet up tensions with North Korea, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, the Palestinian Authority headed by the late Yasir Arafat, and the former government of Haiti are Bolton; NSA's director and the new Deputy Director for National Intelligence General Michael V. Hayden; and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations and Iraq and current National Intelligence Director John Negroponte. Hayden served alongside Condoleezza Rice in the National Security Council under President George H. W. Bush.

        In the lead up to the Iraq War, Negroponte, Bolton, and Hayden, as well as other leading neoconservatives in the Pentagon and White House, directed an e-mail and telephone surveillance campaign against UN Security Council delegates to determine the voting intentions of wavering countries on the council's resolution authorizing military action against Iraq. The targeted delegations were Angola, Cameroon, Chile, China, France, Mexico, Guinea, Pakistan, and Russia.

        ...

        Continued ...

        Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

        by bumblebums on Sat May 07, 2005 at 11:47:58 AM PDT

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        •  Beyond belief. (4.00)
          "...the misuse of NSA and other U.S. intelligence resources... to ratchet up tensions with North Korea, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, the Palestinian Authority headed by the late Yasir Arafat, and the former government of Haiti..."
      •  Speaking of whom (4.00)
        I've just been reading some of his writing. Here's a piece he

        First reported on November 20, 2003, updated April 20, 2005

        http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3029
        .../...
        The suspicious fatal fall from the Watergate complex of ex-CIA and NSC official Dr. Gus Weiss a few weeks after Kokal's similar death at the nearby State Department also merits investigation. Weiss, like Kokal, was adamantly opposed to the Iraq war and Weiss, uncharacteristically, went public with his protests.

        Weiss worked in the office of Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson in the 1970s, along with Iraqi war architects Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz. He also served on the U.S. Intelligence Board under President Jimmy Carter and was considered a hawk during the Carter and Reagan administrations. However, in later years, Weiss broke ranks with his old neoconservative colleagues and came out against the Iraq misadventure.

    •  At one time it was illegal (4.00)
      for the intelligence people to eavesdrop on conversations between Americans. Did that change with the "Patriot Act?"
      •  As far as I know, it's still illegal. (4.00)
        And that could explain the resistance to releasing these documents.
        •  Bingo (4.00)
          More Madsen:


          To ensure that systematic violations of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and NSA's United States Signals Intelligence Directive 18 (USSID 18) in permitting electronic surveillance of U.S. persons on behalf of Bolton and Negroponte went unhindered, Hayden directed his Directorate of Security and Counterintelligence at NSA to browbeat any analyst or operator who showed the slightest tendency to question authority. Hayden's personally-chosen deputy director, William Black, who serves in a position always considered to be somewhat independent from the transitory NSA director, buckled to Hayden's dictates rather than challenge them.

          NSA's General Counsel's office, which, according to internal memos released by NSA in 2000 to the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), had expressed concern over an increase in requests for raw intercept data from external "customers" since Hayden took over in 1999, was effectively neutralized by Hayden's team. Instead, the General Counsel's office provided legal cover for repeated violations of FISA and USSID 18. In responding to internal complaints, NSA's Inspector General's office became a virtual rubber stamp for Hayden and defaulted to ruling against all whistleblowers.

          It gets worse ...

          Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

          by bumblebums on Sat May 07, 2005 at 12:02:34 PM PDT

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          •  When I was in military signals intelligence, (4.00)
            they made us read USSID 18 once a year, and sign off that we had read it.  It was basic to all that we did.

            It's unimaginable what a change in the culture it would be to start systematically ignoring USSID 18.

          •  I don't find this very credible (none)
            One of the conclusions in this article is that the US military shot down the 9/11 plane that went down in PA, and that the "patriotic cover story" was made up.

            Never seen that before.

            •  Shoot-Down (none)
              I am not sure what to make of Madsen's stuff either... However, the story about a military jet shooting down the final hijacked plane in PA has been out there since 9/11.  There are witnesses who saw fighters in the vicinity at the time of the crash and a substantial amount of circumstantial evidence (including a debris pattern consistent with the airliner having been hit by a missile before it crashed) that suggest that there is a real cover-up there.  Sadly, with his cabal, there are a lot of basic things about what happened that we still can't be certain about.
    •  Spying on your own government! (4.00)
      (Or, even more absurdly, spying on a department within your own branch of the government!...)

      These are some serious bottom-feeders, I tell you. How can they live with themselves--after swearing oaths to uphold the Constitution, this?

      If the "War on Terror" is really a war--as they so strenuously argue that it is--then what in the hell is it when you're spying on your own Secretary of State during said war? Is Cheney an enemy combatant? Do I know what 'rhetorical' means?

      [The National Government] regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life. -- Hitler, 1933

      by abw on Sat May 07, 2005 at 12:08:34 PM PDT

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      •  But surely not on members of Congress. (4.00)
        Certainly not that. Or at least, not on members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Well, absolutely not on Republican members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. They'd know, right?

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