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  •  that isn't your essay. i'm reacting to your essay. (2+ / 0-)
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    •  give it up...you can only split that hair so many (2+ / 0-)
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      ways

      Colorado has a much higher GDP than Utah because it is culturally superior

      by memofromturner on Fri Aug 24, 2012 at 07:12:35 AM PDT

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    •  Your reading his essay and being unpleasant. I (3+ / 0-)
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      think you've made your point - a piss poor one, but you've done it about as clearly as it's possible to do.  You haven't convinced anyone but yourself, so it's time to give it up, don't you think?  Doesn't matter how many times you insist you're right and the diarist is one or how vehement you are in your opinion, you're still wrong.

      BTW, just before hitting post I changed my 7th word to unpleasant to make sure I didn't violate the rules here.  I would have liked to have left it as my much stronger feelings.

      "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

      by gustynpip on Fri Aug 24, 2012 at 07:38:38 AM PDT

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      •  vehement? (1+ / 0-)
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        just exactly what i mean... how do my comments qualify as vehement?

        and unpleasant? really? because i disagree with the spin?

        the only thing i can imagine is that most people are simply looking for reinforcement and could care less about critical thinking, engaging in another POV, or discussing the remote possibility that perhaps the point of Ryan's interview is not "method" but that the guy has a record, is proud of it, but yet does not declare it.

        why? however, hey, let's make it about rape as another method of getting pregnant. just not the kind of approach i think is helpful.

        •  You're repeating yourself over and (0+ / 0-)

          over and over, with nothing new.   And so determined that you're right and everyone else is wrong.   That's both unpleasant and vehement.

          And I'm afraid you're the one missing the critical thinking skills here.  You're the one ignoring the question that is being answered and accepting only the specific words themselves that Ryan used.  That does not constitute critical thinking at all.  That constitutes passive acceptance.

          "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

          by gustynpip on Fri Aug 24, 2012 at 09:32:28 AM PDT

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          •  ah. so i need to be a mind reader. (0+ / 0-)

            do you then accept that the right has some basis for its  interpretation of Obama's statement:

            Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.
            because to my reading literally he said "you didn't build the business you've got".  the truth is it was a poorly worded sentence and nothing more. and he was obviously referring to roads and bridges... at least to me. but not to my cousin.

            yet... if we go by this example in this essay, we're stuck. because that whole Obama "that" thing was absurd and it was obvious to me he was riffing off of Elizabeth Warren. but it wasn't to everybody. so when i ran across people like my cousin spewing this silliness on Facebook, i told her it was a riff off Warren at a house party and gave the link:

            i think we ought to stick to what is said. and when we take it from literal translation to analysis ... back it up. and stop making assumptions.

            •  See what I mean? You seem to have no grasp of (1+ / 0-)
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              the concept of context.  Ryan was clearly responding to a question that was unequivocally about abortion; Obama was clearly referring to the roads and bridges, not the business.  I'm really sorry you're having such a difficult time with this.  But it truly is not making assumptions about anything to reach either of those conclusions.  They're simple facts.  If you don't take the context of a statement into consideration, you might as well not even bother having a discussion about anything.  Again, critical thinking does NOT mean accepting the simple words used - critical thinking not only allows, but requires, the consideration of context.

              "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

              by gustynpip on Fri Aug 24, 2012 at 12:25:17 PM PDT

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