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  •  Indycam ... (6+ / 0-)

    You probably have a decent point.

    Reminders of when and when not to Hide Rate is always something that folk need to hear.

    I do feel that you picked the wrong example though, in this case.

    That Diary wasn't just spam, it was, at least to me, highly offensive given the Death of Neil Armstrong, and him not even cold yet!

    Quite frankly, that is not a Diary that brings any credit to this site, and it provides plenty of ammunition for those who would seek to criticize us.

    We cannot hide Diaries, but we can express when a Diary should be hidden from casual view, by HR'ing the Tip Jar.

    Sixteen users, many in very good standing have done so, and my own view is that the HRs are justified.

    They are not always, hence your point is a good one, but I don't think that the example is quite so good.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 11:11:19 AM PDT

    •  And as I commented in the diary (7+ / 0-)

      (though I did not HR the tip jar; no need to pile on and it's early enough on Sunday that I want to conserve my pastry), there's enough idiocy on the Internet without contributing to it. That diary was doing nothing but contributing to it. Now, if that one line had been an intro to a piece on how we've neglected our heroes to the point that no one knows who they are (there were people on Twitter who either had never heard of Neil Armstrong or who thought he was Lance Armstrong's dad), that might have been an interesting discussion. This was just linkbait.

      "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

      by Cali Scribe on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 11:17:33 AM PDT

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    •  And I think it is a perfect example . (0+ / 0-)
      Hide rating a tip jar is not intended to be used against anyone but the most obvious and egregious of trolls.
      Was the diarist meeting these standards ? Was he "the most obvious and egregious of trolls" ?
      You might not care for what he wrote ,
      you might find it to be in very bad taste ,
      but was the diarist "the most obvious and egregious of trolls" ?
      Sixteen users, many in very good standing have done so, and my own view is that the HRs are justified.
      I could make a video of a hundred cars , including cop cars , rolling past a stop sign , does that mean the stop sign is wrong ?

      "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

      by indycam on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 11:26:38 AM PDT

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      •  We are going to have agree to (1+ / 0-)
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        Lost and Found

        disagree on this.

        Oh and yes .... Many Stop Signs are wrong .... In the vast majority of cases, they should be Yield Signs.

        That is why motorists roll through them.

        I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
        but I fear we will remain Democrats.

        by twigg on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 11:36:06 AM PDT

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        •  The rule is to stop at a stop sign . (1+ / 0-)
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          You can not say it should be a yield sign by not stopping .
          At a 4 way , everyone is to stop and wait their turn , people rolling cause problems .

          That is why motorists roll through them.
          Its because they think they are above the law . Its because they think they don't have to do a full stop . They see others not stopping and they do the same same .

          "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

          by indycam on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 02:05:29 PM PDT

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      •  I strongly disagree with your stop sign analogy. (2+ / 0-)
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        chicago minx, Hedwig

        The guidelines for community moderation are far more complex and ambiguous than the rules for stopping at a stop sign because community moderation requires people to use their best judgment about comments that are fundamentally political in nature. It is not something that could ever be properly performed by some automated system without human intervention.

        I did not HR the tip jar that you are referring to, but I do find that "diary" both trollish and spammy, and I have no quarrel with the trusted users who did HR it, some of whom have been on this site longer than you have. I have seen a number of diarists get manually banned by an admin for posting this type of obnoxious one-sentence spam diary, and I think it is well within the bounds of what can be legitimately HRed.

        If your goal is to complain about excessive HRing of tip jars, in my view you have chosen a very poor diary to use as your example.

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