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  •  Kind of amazing how DC allowed Miller to trash ... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... Superman, who by far and away was their flagship character in the early 1980s, in order to make Batman appear more hip and bad-ass.

    Miller hates the hell out of Superman -- anytime Superman appears in a Miller story he is portrayed as a dupe, a dope, a pawn of authoritarian power figures who of course must be outdueled by the crafty street-smart Batman.

    •  Supes in Dark Knight Returns (1+ / 0-)
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      The view of Clark in The Dark Knight Returns as a big blue Boy Scout, always ready to say yes to a man in a uniform, is the view we get from Bruce; but remember, Bruce is also a bitter old man.  In a couple places, Miller also gives us Superman's point of view.

      Clark in Dark Knight Returns is not stupid, nor is he a dupe.  He allows himself to be used by the Powers That Be, as part of a Faustian bargain that lets him continue to save lives when he can and try to keep the world from Armaggeddon, within the limits that have been imposed on him.  Most of the other heroes of his generation have given up and retreated when the people turned against them.  Even Bruce went into retirement.  Clark stuck with it.

      "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

      by quarkstomper on Mon Aug 27, 2012 at 05:59:57 PM PDT

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      •  Only after seeing Watchmen the movie (1+ / 0-)
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        did I realize how much Miller cribbed from Alan Moore.

        "A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer

        by CFAmick on Mon Aug 27, 2012 at 06:57:10 PM PDT

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        •  Actually, I think... (0+ / 0-)

          ... I think Dark Knight Returns came out a little bit before Watchmen did.  But Watchmen did further develop themes Alan Moore was playing with in his earlier works for WARRIOR magazine, such as "Marvelman/Miracleman", before he came to DC.

          "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

          by quarkstomper on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:13:39 PM PDT

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