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  •  FDR was the greatest, period (4.00)
    He was the greatest president of the 20th century--hell, the greatest statesman of the 20th century, period. A good case can be made the he was the greatest president ever (only Lincoln would rival him). Someone should buy Bush a copy of Conrad Black's masterly biography of FDR so he can see how a true statesman handles domestic and worldwide crises.

    Of course, it's 1,360 pages long, which is about 1,350 pages more than his usual reading (mostly popup books, I hear), so no chance of getting this brick into his hands.

    And I'd better see some major Democrats defending FDR soon, the way conservatives defend Reagan, or there's gonna be hell to pay in the party!

    "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."

    by vawolf on Sat May 07, 2005 at 10:30:01 PM PDT

    •  I'm not sure about that (none)
      FDR's attacks on the Supreme Court and attempts to overrule it form a significant stain on his legacy.  Perhaps he's not quite as bad as Andrew Jackson in that respect, but attacking the Supreme Court and attempting to overrule its decisions is a very dangerous sort of precedent, and one people like DeLay are following.

      "Hail the masses: ugly and dumb." -Sol Invictus

      by Delirium on Sat May 07, 2005 at 11:09:07 PM PDT

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      •  'Greatest' doesn't mean perfect (4.00)

        "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."

        by vawolf on Sun May 08, 2005 at 12:09:58 AM PDT

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      •  But... (none)
        ...he meant well.

        More seriously: Yes, you're right, he did overreach in trying to accomplish his goals. And if he had been a healthier, younger man we might have ended up with serious problems, most likely around his fifth or sixth term. Given his high standing among the troops, he could have called on some serious support from the returning GIs, both at the polls and, if necessary, in more direct ways.

        But that's just "what if". While far from perfect (much of his "statesmanship" stemmed from an incredible ability to lie convincingly), what he accomplished, and what he set in motion, compares to no president other than perhaps Lincoln.

        And, yes, he cheated on his wife too.

        "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russell

        by Mad Dog Rackham on Sun May 08, 2005 at 09:06:51 AM PDT

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    •  I like FDR plenty, (none)
      but don't plan to read a 1,360-page bio "written" by a media crook.

      The Republicans want to cut YOUR Social Security benefits.

      by devtob on Sun May 08, 2005 at 08:36:02 AM PDT

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      •  Your loss (none)
        It really is a great bio.

        "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."

        by vawolf on Sun May 08, 2005 at 02:55:14 PM PDT

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