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  •  Any facts to back up (6+ / 0-)

    your opinioon?

    for any of these claims:

    (1) Romney;s birther joke was racial.

    (2) Jan Brewer hates LAtinos

    (3) Republicans support Puerto Rico statehood (check the votes over the years.).

    (4) The USA USA chant had nothing to do with Fonalledas being Latina.

    I'll wait to see how you know some of these things and not the others.

    •  Romney's one-liner probably wasn't (0+ / 0-)

      meant to be racist.  But it was.  Romney probably wasn't thinking about race at all; and that's the problem.

      Does that make sense?

      Early to rise and early to bed Makes a man healthy, wealthy, and dead. --Not Benjamin Franklin

      by Boundegar on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 12:05:47 PM PDT

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      •  It msakes total sense (1+ / 0-)
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        Delilah

        But there is not knife in the hand evidence to support it.

        You make my point very well.

      •  Could not disagree more with that (2+ / 0-)
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        TKO333, chemborg

        Romney's "joke" IMO was not extemporaneous,  it was written for him for a specific purpose and to convey a very simple, easy to understand message.

        For those of you who don't possess the universal dog whistle translator, let me translate for you.

        "By the way, if you guys haven't noticed, I'm the white guy running for president, as opposed to the other guy, who's black and maybe from another country to boot".

         

        "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

        by jkay on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 12:16:53 PM PDT

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      •  Yes that would make sense.... (3+ / 0-)
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        chemborg, Armando, fumie

        ...so why is it so hard to accept that the shouts of USA were not also partially racist, at least by some if not many. You've got a whole auditorium filled with people to whom it would never occur that hollering USA at a representative of Puerto Rico might be a tad uncool.  And they are all members of a party that has been labeling everyone who isn't white "foreign." How is this different? I'm really asking cause I don't get it, not cause I'm trying to challenge you.

    •  Good grief. (3+ / 0-)
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      ltsply2, Armando, JVolvo

      The first two have nothing to do with this, regardless of your attempts to tie them in, so I'll start with the third one.

      (3) The following passage was included in the 2008, 2004, and 2000 GOP platforms:

      We support the right of the United States citizens of Puerto Rico to be admitted to the Union as a fully sovereign state after they freely so determine. We recognize that Congress has the final authority to define the constitutionally valid options for Puerto Rico to achieve a permanent non-territorial status with government by consent and full enfranchisement. As long as Puerto Rico is not a state, however, the will of its people regarding their political status should be ascertained by means of a general right of referendum or specific referenda sponsored by the U.S. government.
      In fact, the GOP has endorsed Puerto Rico's statehood in every platform since 1968. In 1979, Ronald Reagan -- deeply admired by pro-statehood governor and RNC member Luis Fortuno -- stated the following:
      I favor statehood for Puerto Rico
      Romney, of course, is very supportive of Puerto Rican statehood, and it would stand to reason that his delegates would be to, eh?

      Why have mainstream Republicans long been in favor of Puerto Rican statehood? I honestly don't know. It could have something to do with their fondness for American expansionism. It may have to do with the belief of Republican leaders that the state would be solidly red (which, at this point, I would dispute). Whatever the case, it's clear that Puerto Rican statehood has been lingering on Republican wish lists for almost as long as DC statehood has been lingering on Democratic wish lists.

      (4) Per Univision:

      Ask yourself: why would delegates who conceivably supported the actions of Priebus and the RNC — of which Fonalledas is a member — try to drown out their own allies with a “U-S-A!” chant? I saw the chaos develop myself here in Tampa and I didn’t think for a second that delegates were going nativist on the Puerto Rican official.

      Remember, the booing and all around chaos had already broken out before Fonalledas opened her mouth. Do you think the rabble-rousers even knew she was from Puerto Rico?

      Yes, there has been a vigorous debate this week over the Republican Party’s ability to appeal to minorities, including Latinos. But this incident should not be a part of that discussion because it has absolutely nothing to do with Puerto Rico or race.

      Emphasis added. That just about says it all. A diarist here has already pointed out the same thing, but I believe you've laid into him already.

      Don't get me wrong, because I'm all for calling out GOP race-baiting, especially now that it makes up their main axis of attack against Obama. Fabricating race-baiting where it isn't, however, doesn't help us or anyone else.

      "Let's put the jam on the lower shelf so the little people can reach it." - Ralph Yarborough

      by Zutroy on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 12:37:55 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks for your reply (0+ / 0-)

        I think you are taking too much on faith here.

        But I appreciate the thought process, it is what has been missing from the opinions in my view.

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