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  •  Scott Pelly tonight's news talked to Ryan. (3+ / 0-)
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    If you didn't see it he asked about 2 or 3 items. Then pressed Ryan about the debt ceiling downgrade and how many said Ryan was part of the blame. But Ryan talked himself out of that, again putting blame on the president and said he'd talked to the ratings agency and they did not mean what they said. So Scott read the agency's statement blaming Cong. Republicans. But Ryan came back and said, that's not what they said to me! Blah, blah, completely talked it out, as if he was right, but looked a bit bothered, almost a tinge sheepish after that was read. Then it ended with no further rebuttal, such as, but the agency did not revise this statement. It stands.

    "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

    by Gorette on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 04:36:38 PM PDT

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    •  Here is cbs link: (1+ / 0-)
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      Ryan defends budget crisis.......... BUT NOTE, after Ryan says S&P blamed it on "political dysfunction," the video ends. But on the cbs news it continued with Pelly reading the quote, blaming Congressional Repubs.

      ALSO ARTICLE about plant closing, quite detailed, 6 pages, goes into six lies:

      A General Motors spokesperson told CBS News today that the plant was idled in December 2008 because of a decline in demand for SUVs due to rising gas prices.

      President George W. Bush first approved $17.4 billion in auto bailout loans on Dec. 19, 2008, but it was too late to save the Janesville plant. Mr. Obama extended the bailout after he took office, and some analysts have claimed more than 1 million jobs were saved by the bailout.

      Asked if there was anything Mr. Obama could have done to reverse that decision when he took office in January 2009, the GM spokeswoman said, "from a business perspective, it was a done deal. I don't think I can add anymore."

      (Then onto the Medicare $716m) .....The campaign has not relayed specifics on how he would do that, however, and the New York Times reports that the pledge to reimburse the $716 billion in reductions would alone reduce Medicare's solvency by eight years.

      Fact checking 6 claim's in Ryan's speech

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 04:52:58 PM PDT

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      •  abc news online article (2+ / 0-)
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        Obama Campaign Shreds ‘Lies’ in Ryan Speech

        Ryan said Wednesday that $716 billion were “funneled out of Medicare by President Obama,” suggesting the administration had raided the program at the expense of beneficiaries.

        In reality, the Affordable Care Act did not alter existing Medicare benefits as guaranteed by law but instead trimmed payments to service providers while reducing waste, fraud and abuse, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.  Ryan also didn’t mention that he proposed the same $716 billion in Medicare savings in his signature budget.

        (Republicans claim the trimmed payments will result in some lost benefits and higher costs, particularly for seniors with Medicare Advantage plans.)

        Ryan also tied the president to the closure of a GM auto plant in Janesville, Wis., where Obama stumped in 2008 and pledged to help it stay open.  But what Ryan didn’t mention is that that the plant produced its last GM car and transitioned to standby phase before Obama began his term.

        "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

        by Gorette on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 05:07:08 PM PDT

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        •  nbcnews.com two articles: (1+ / 0-)
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          Social media analysis: Ryan called out for claims in convention speech

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          Ryan: Obama not solely to blame for auto plant failure

          Paul Ryan acknowledged that more factors than just President Obama contributed to the closing of a General Motors plant in his hometown at the height of the auto industry's troubles in 2008.

          Despite appearing to assign the president sole blame for the decision to place a Janesville, Wis., GM plant on standby during his speech Thursday...... Ryan made some clarifications, while still chiding Obama for making a promise to help keep the plant open.

          snip.....“Well, I think really what got the plant was $4 gas," Ryan said. "A lack of an energy policy, and that-- that pre-dates the Obama years. We need a better energy policy in this country.”

          "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

          by Gorette on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 05:14:24 PM PDT

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          •  Yeah, I'm encouraged. Perhaps the worm turns. Or (1+ / 0-)
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            if journalists, editors and even local publishers want to throw their bosses off their backs, they've got the best tools in the world for doing that. Everyday, making a case. And they're also tools for covering their own backs if they are telling the truth and start tearing into the gristle like this. I was pleased with ABC and CBS when I came across their reports today. Good meat off the gristle.

    •  Seriously he said that? (1+ / 0-)
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      S&P puts out a written statement on their reason for downgrading our credit rating--not a small little thing, you'd think they'd take pains to be clear--and Ryan claims, well, they said something different to me!  Who you gonna believe, S&P's written statement, or my claim of an undocumented conversation I had with them?

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