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  •  No, no, no, no NO! (20+ / 0-)

    "Some of his best friends are..." doesn't work.
    I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to behave in a racist manner and act out racist bullshit improv.

    I'm not upset because Clint Eastwood is a racist.  I don't know if he is or he isn't and I don't give half a shit either way.
    I don't give a flying fuck what's in his heart.
    i don't care who his friends are
    or what movies he's made
    or whether or not he supports the NAACP.

    What he did last night was grade-A, unadulterated, pure, old-fashioned white racism.
    Clint was lecturing the "boy" in the child's classroom chair who needed to get a good talking-to from the white man who smirkingly referred to this invisible idiot as "mister."

    Clint heard this invisible boy responding with profanity and a child's petulant demands to "shut up."

    If the "boy" was white, you're right in thinking it would have been different. But he wasn't.  He isn't.  And he's not a boy and he the people who insist that he is a boy have deeper issues than estate taxes and Cayman Island banks.  

    And there are several hundred years of shit still stinking up our national conversation whenever people let this racist crap fall from their lips.

    Just because the smell doesn't bother you, or you don't notice it, does not give you the right to deny it exists.

    And we are telling you it does.

    And CLint Eastwood smeared it all over that stage last night and those fuckers cheered.
    Because they love the smell of racist shit.

    Hope isn't a choice, it's a moral obligation...hope is not naive, hope grapples endlessly with despair. Tony Kushner, 2002

    by Commoditize This on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 05:47:58 PM PDT

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    •  AMEN (4+ / 0-)
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      WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For May: Martyrs of the San Diego Free Speech Fight, Spring 1912.

      by JayRaye on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 06:25:40 PM PDT

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    •  when one assumes every unpleasant interaction... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...between two people (or a person and a pretend guy represented by a chair) of different races has racism at the core, well, somebody's obsessed with race, for certain.  

      I live in Mississippi, and I've seen plenty of racism.  Hell, I've got white skin but a very foreign name, so I've been on the receiving end of a lot of it.  I know what it fucking is.   And this, honestly, did not look like it to me, no matter how many "no no no no nos" you throw at me.

      The guy just had a chair there because he needed a prop to represent his imaginary opponent in his dumb little skit.  You say it would have been different if he was white... so, is the racism really Clint's?  

      How could he have done the skit differently and not have you call him racist?  I mean, I don't want to defend the skit, I thought it was pathetic, but this "boy" thing... I don't think it's something he did, as much as it's something people are trying to impose on it just because it would him more of a bad guy.

      I'm sorry, but I think this is a case of hyper-vigilance and defensiveness on your part, and I disagree with your assessment; I don't doubt you see it that way, but I think it's crying wolf.  If you look for racism in every interaction, you'll always find it.  And that does a disservice to actual instances of racism.  

      "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

      by Front Toward Enemy on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 07:35:29 PM PDT

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      •  Hayes described it well. It was not intentional. (5+ / 0-)

        But it sure touched on some real issues.

      •  If you can't see that racism isn't just (6+ / 0-)

        burning crosses and lynchings and hate,
        that it also manifests as strangely angry reactions to the pointing out of white privilege, blithe accusations of special preference, assumptions about intelligence, laziness, anger and intransigence and a gut feeling about how certain people should know their place, show gratitude and speak with respect to people who are treating them disrespectfully, than I don't know what to tell you.

        Perhaps you would be less offended by the hypervigilance and defensiveness you're seeing if you saw and felt justification for them every day of your entire life.

        And, sorry...but, being white and having a foreign name gives you an inkling of what it feels like to be on the receiving end of racism against black people in the USA in the same way that being a guest at a bar mitzvah makes you have some clue as to what it meant to be Jewish in Europe in the thirties.

        History doesn't disappear just because you're tired of hearing about it.  And racist dogwhistles don't become pan flute just because the person tooting them thinks they're Zamfir.

        Hope isn't a choice, it's a moral obligation...hope is not naive, hope grapples endlessly with despair. Tony Kushner, 2002

        by Commoditize This on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 08:20:37 PM PDT

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