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  •  when one assumes every unpleasant interaction... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...between two people (or a person and a pretend guy represented by a chair) of different races has racism at the core, well, somebody's obsessed with race, for certain.  

    I live in Mississippi, and I've seen plenty of racism.  Hell, I've got white skin but a very foreign name, so I've been on the receiving end of a lot of it.  I know what it fucking is.   And this, honestly, did not look like it to me, no matter how many "no no no no nos" you throw at me.

    The guy just had a chair there because he needed a prop to represent his imaginary opponent in his dumb little skit.  You say it would have been different if he was white... so, is the racism really Clint's?  

    How could he have done the skit differently and not have you call him racist?  I mean, I don't want to defend the skit, I thought it was pathetic, but this "boy" thing... I don't think it's something he did, as much as it's something people are trying to impose on it just because it would him more of a bad guy.

    I'm sorry, but I think this is a case of hyper-vigilance and defensiveness on your part, and I disagree with your assessment; I don't doubt you see it that way, but I think it's crying wolf.  If you look for racism in every interaction, you'll always find it.  And that does a disservice to actual instances of racism.  

    "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

    by Front Toward Enemy on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 07:35:29 PM PDT

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    •  Hayes described it well. It was not intentional. (5+ / 0-)

      But it sure touched on some real issues.

    •  If you can't see that racism isn't just (6+ / 0-)

      burning crosses and lynchings and hate,
      that it also manifests as strangely angry reactions to the pointing out of white privilege, blithe accusations of special preference, assumptions about intelligence, laziness, anger and intransigence and a gut feeling about how certain people should know their place, show gratitude and speak with respect to people who are treating them disrespectfully, than I don't know what to tell you.

      Perhaps you would be less offended by the hypervigilance and defensiveness you're seeing if you saw and felt justification for them every day of your entire life.

      And, sorry...but, being white and having a foreign name gives you an inkling of what it feels like to be on the receiving end of racism against black people in the USA in the same way that being a guest at a bar mitzvah makes you have some clue as to what it meant to be Jewish in Europe in the thirties.

      History doesn't disappear just because you're tired of hearing about it.  And racist dogwhistles don't become pan flute just because the person tooting them thinks they're Zamfir.

      Hope isn't a choice, it's a moral obligation...hope is not naive, hope grapples endlessly with despair. Tony Kushner, 2002

      by Commoditize This on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 08:20:37 PM PDT

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