Skip to main content

View Diary: Virgil Goode makes the presidential ballot in Virginia, but a Republican challenge looms (141 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  It could happen (8+ / 0-)

    However, with the selection of Paul Ryan I think Florida becomes extremely difficult for Romney to carry.  Team Obama will pound the Medicare message home in Florida--game, set, match.

    If Virginia and Florida come off the map, it's over.

    •  Yep - Biden has even coined a new term (15+ / 0-)

      for Ryan's plan - Vouchercare.  I'm sure that will play well in Florida.

      NC-4 (soon to be NC-6) Obama/Biden 2012

      by bear83 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 11:02:46 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Don't think so (0+ / 0-)

      What all of the coverage (that I've seen, anyway) about Ryan's Medicare plan ignores is that he modified it to make it optional: you can take the voucher, or continue with traditional Medicare (that was after his collabo with Wyden).

      Now I can smell the smoke and spot the mirrors in that, but all it takes is a few ads and news reports saying the voucher is optional, and anyway it only applies to people under 55, and that attack is blunted.

      Florida is a frothy economy that runs on tourists and snowbirds, very little economic activity outside of that. Its the hottest place in a bubble and the last place to recover from a recession. 10.5% unemployment.

      I think its unlikely an incumbent President can win in a state with unemployment in the double digits.

      •  really? ryan made the voucher optional? (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        PALiberal1

        what 85-y-o is going to opt for a coupon that may pay for a portion of their healthcare instead of a govt-backed guaranteed program that promises to pay for their needs?

        bull. fucking. shit.

        the economy is picking up is s fla.  unemployment is declining.  real estate prices are on the rise.

        there's a good reason why gov scott's approval rating is below 30%.  there's a good reason why paul ryan doesn't like to campaign outside of the villages.

        stop repeating rw talking points.  nobody gives a shit what you think obama can do in florida.  we are on the ground, working hard, & you are fucked.

        •  Do you live in Florida? (0+ / 0-)

          I do. I think I read the Miami Herald, I have friends in Tallahassee (including a former news anchor). I saw an annual trip that about a group of a hundred of us take every year to the Keys cancelled, because so many people are broke, they work in the service industry and their tips are just terrible. I have some sense of what's going on here.  Where do you get your expertise, reading somebody's self-congratulatory blog?

          On Ryan's Medicare plan, you're confusing the reality of the policy (terrible, and probably utterly unworkable, what company wants to sell health insurance to a senior citien?) with perception - I was talking about how the ads will play out.

          As for me being fucked if Democrats do well in Florida, you're as nutty as any tea partier or Ron Paulbot. I'm an Obama supporter. But I look at politics realistically, perhaps cynically. You get all foamy at the mouth and paranoid if anyone dares to suggest that all is not perfect in Dems electoral chances. You are exactly what makes intelligent political discourse impossible in this country, you're in the same crowd as any birther or tea party whack job.

          Zealots are poisonous to intelligent discourse. And you are a true zealot.

          •  sounds like you're really well-connected to (0+ / 0-)

            the rw machine in tallahassee.  figures.

            i lived in fla for many yrs, still have many, many friends & family there, & visit every couple of months.  what you described is not happening, no matter how much you want to believe it is.

            do you happen to know anyone on medicare?  i do.  and their answer to paul ryan & the r's is "leave medicare alone!"  

            as for the koch bros/adelson/rove ad barrage working, go ahead, bring it on -- it just pisses off more seniors & activates the base to turn out on election day.

            your rw talking points break down whenever someone points out the truth b/c you always ignore the facts & opt for the standard fantasy version of "reality" as seen thru the lens of whatever rw hack is the flavor of the month/week.  

            this is a site dedicated to electing more & better democrats.  not a forum for spewing rw talking points ad nauseum like you do -- your numerous diaries about ayn rand (wtf is up with that?), your rude castigation of female commenters who disagree with your position on abortion & would like you to shut the fuck up when it comes to telling them they must bear a child whether they want to or not, & your not-so-subtle innuendos that, hey, life under a lyin' ryan/romney administration won't really be that bad.

            you & your rw friends just don't want to take no for an answer.  too fucking bad.

          •  follow up: (0+ / 0-)

            a very wise kossak has given me some advice about how i should interact with you.  they say i should give you a chance to prove which way you swing -- whether you're a troll (as i believe) or a legitimate democrat who likes to make their case the hard way.

            so, if it's acceptable to you, i'll call time out on our feud until the election is over, but i reserve the right to disagree, respectfully, if warranted.

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site