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  •  the title is spot on, much of the resistance (4+ / 0-)
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    to Obama, and anxiety about him for no small amount of white voters is this idea of deference to black authority and insecurity about their place in the social order. the tea party gop has mined and encouraged this fear since day one.

    tactically, can some of those right leaning independents who are not too fond of obama or people of color but who are not too pleased with romney and his economic politics--and personality--be won over? i don't know.

    •  Your title would be better off in the body (4+ / 0-)
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      of the diary. As a title it is needlessly inflammatory.

      What you are saying is undoubtedly true: it is a challenge for the Obama campaign to call out the race-baiting that is rather carefully embedded in the statements of Romney and Ryan without seeming to make the entire election about race. But, as others have noted, it's a challenge our side is up to.

    •  Well, Chauncey, I had a tough time with some (2+ / 0-)
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      of this diary. But I get what you're trying to say.

      It's the same old "white working class voter" meme that we've been talking about since 2008. It's not new but it's legitimate. I do think that many of them held their noses in 2008 but now, perhaps, not being better off might hesitate.

      Honestly, that presupposes a lot, though. One:that they aren't better off. Two: that they blame the black guy. Three: that they are vulnerable to the dog whistles. Four: are these the undecided voters? Do we actually have that data? I know rove is targeting "disappointed Obama voters" but my impression was not that these were largely white blue collar men, as you seem to suggest. In fact the ads I've seen are, yes, all white. But seem to be largely female.

      I think that's a lot to presuppose, frankly.

      Yes there's white working class resentment. That's not new. That why Obama sends certain surrogates like Biden or Big Dog or Trumka into certain communities. Reality. I get it. If we're honest, we'll admit it.

      On the other hand I've never seen a place like OH up for Dems to the degree it is. Particularly so early.

      I think we have to consider that there may have been growth as well. Maybe people who feared Obama was the apocalypse realized he's just...not. We have to consider that it's possible that even these people are capable of not seeing everything through a racial lens. And there's also the harsh reality of the worst GOP candidate, in terms of connection and trust and benefitting the working class, that I can remember.

      I think the error you make is that you're seeing it too staticly. You make good points and I think Obama uses different surrogates to reach different constituencies for exactly the reasons you're trying to make here. But things are fluid and im not sure what else can be done. Obama will be black on November 6. That's not changing.

      As for the party itself, long term, this will not be an issue until the next minority or woman is our standard bearer. If Obama was white, we wouldn't be having this discussion. So I don't see us "losing" this constituency. There's still a lot of white guys who may end up top of the ticket in 2016. And when that happens, it's the GOP who better be trying to figure out how to win an election, not us.

      For the record, I am not a member of Courtesy Kos. Just so you know. Don't be stupid. It's election season. My patience is short.

      by mdmslle on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 01:50:32 PM PDT

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