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  •  How do these fact chuckers even get jobs? (7+ / 0-)

    Don't they teach in school anymore the difference between fact and opinion? This guy is even more confused than Glen Kessler on that point.

    I found you can make much more sense of this column, if you take every instance in which he uses the word "fact" or "fact check" (except when he is quoting someone else using the word) and replace it with the word "ad-hominem attack".

    For example:

    AD HOMINEM ATTACK: Clinton claims of compromise a stretch

    CLINTON: ‘‘When times are tough, constant conflict may be good politics but in the real world, cooperation works better. ...Unfortunately, the faction that now dominates the Republican Party doesn’t see it that way. They think government is the enemy and compromise is weakness. One of the main reasons America should re-elect President Obama is that he is still committed to cooperation.’’

    THE AD HOMINEM ATTACK: From Clinton’s speech, voters would have no idea that the inflexibility of both parties is to blame for much of the gridlock. Right from the beginning Obama brought in as his first chief of staff Rahm Emmanuel, a man known for his getting his way, not for getting along.


    CLINTON: Clinton suggested that Obama’s health care law is keeping health care costs in check.

    ‘‘For the last two years, health care spending has grown under 4 percent, for the first time in 50 years. So, are we all better off because President Obama fought for it and passed it? You bet we are.’’

    THE AD HOMINEM ATTACK: That’s wishful thinking at best.


    CLINTON: ‘‘I know many Americans are still angry and frustrated with the economy. ... I experienced the same thing in 1994 and early 1995. Our policies were working but most people didn’t feel it yet. By 1996, the economy was roaring, halfway through the longest peacetime expansion in American history.’’

    THE AD HOMINEM ATTACK: Clinton is counting on voters to recall the 1990s wistfully and to cast a vote for Obama in hopes of replicating those days in a second term. But Clinton leaves out the abrupt downward turn the economy took near the end of his own second term and the role his policies played in the setting the stage for the historic financial meltdown of 2008.


    CLINTON: ‘‘Their campaign pollster said, ‘We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers.’ Now that is true. I couldn’t have said it better myself — I just hope you remember that every time you see the ad.’’

    THE AD HOMINEM ATTACK: Clinton, who famously finger-wagged a denial on national television about his sexual relationship with intern Monica Lewinsky and was subsequently impeached in the House on a perjury charge, has had his own uncomfortable moments over telling the truth. ‘‘I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky,’’ Clinton told television viewers. Later, after he was forced to testify to a grand jury, Clinton said his statements were ‘‘legally accurate’’ but also allowed that he ‘‘misled people, including even my wife.’’

    •  Sadly Matt Apuzzo Is The Instructor (1+ / 0-)
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      Instructor: Matt Apuzzo, investigative reporter in
       The Associated Press’ Washington bureau

      Don't they teach in school anymore the difference between fact and opinion?

      The Republican Party is Simply a Coalition of Greed and Hate

      by kerplunk on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 08:01:37 AM PDT

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