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  •  If animals have rights, can humans be far (5+ / 0-)

    behind?

    The people of the United States have been flummoxed by the misperception that the first ten amendments to the Constitution guarantee respect for their rights. The do no such thing.  The Constitution is addressed to agents of government and tells them what they must, may and may not do, unless they've got a good reason and, in some instances, get permission from a judge.  In other words, there's good reason for the Bush Administration to assert that since protecting the nation is a higher priority than any individual, individual rights can be ignored or disregarded, as long as the dangerous conditions persist. And the PATRIOT Act codifies it, so it's not just up to the whim of the executive. Which is why some people are going to be permanently detained because there's no cause to arrest, try and convict them.  And it's all legal.
    Our laws have been used to deprive individuals of rights from the beginning.

    That private individuals and corporations have no legal obligation to respect individual rights, unless they happen to be engaged in interstate commerce and owe some obligation for the privileges of engaging in such enterprise, goes without saying.  Indeed, it is this "freedom" on the part of private parties to abuse and deprive their fellow man that makes privatization attractive. "Limited government" means that agents of government are not permitted to be mean and abusive. Getting the private corporations to do that is OK.

    If we want to make progress respecting human rights, we need a constitutional commitment to that effect.  Instead of the pursuit of happiness we need government dedicated to securing human rights, which, I've been told, are well covered by the universal declaration of human rights and the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which the U.S. has not ratified.
    Why don't we do that?  Tradition. The notion of people as property reverberates, perhaps because so much effort has gone into convincing ourselves that owning things is an acceptable substitute for owning ourselves -- that the wealth of the nation makes up for people being unfree.
    It doesn't feel good to confront error.  That's why the hippies had to be dissed and more recently the occupiers had to be put down.

    Inconvenient truths aren't just ignored.  Sometimes the messengers are attacked.

    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 11:36:26 AM PDT

    •  As you said above: (0+ / 0-)
      since protecting the nation is a higher priority than any individual, individual rights can be ignored or disregarded, as long as the dangerous conditions persist.
      While that may be the interpretation du jour, among those who wish to justify the folly of our military interventions, (regardless of the great cost to those in uniform and their loved ones, and to our national treasure) I do not agree.

      Our individual rights are what make this country great.  I am fully aware that these civil liberties were an afterthought on the part of our founders, but to take them away from one is to take them away from all.  We are no longer the nation that we think we are when we compromise those rights, regardless of the reason, and no legal minds will ever convince me otherwise, because the stronger we hold on to and protect those rights, the stronger we are as a nation.

      Our enemies don't hate us for our freedoms, they hate us for our meddling, just as we would not tolerate anyone meddling in the affairs of our country. Ultimately, slashing and burning the Bill of Rights is the very thing that will guarantee them, our enemies, victory.

      I apologize for my naivete, but that's how I see it.

      Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense. Carl Sagan

      by sjburnman on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 05:45:55 PM PDT

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