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  •  Because the economy never changes, (0+ / 0-)

    and nobody has ever followed advice about what will make money only to find out later on that the economy has shifted and those jobs are either no longer in demand or overpopulated by other people wanting to make money, too.

    Yes, you are in fact a Republican—whatever struggle you now have, it is your own damned fault. There are no exceptions to this rule. Anyone that struggles should have X, and instead did Y.

    You got bad advice? Too bad you chose bad friends. You got bad advice from counselors and the press? Your fault for attending one of those liberal universities or reading that liberal press. You're a lawyer and you can't find a job that will make it possible for you to repay your student loans? (This J.D. is a close relative with a degree from Stanford.) You must either (a) suck at what you do, or (b) [fill in blank here that makes it this person's fault], or (c) shouldn't have taken out student loans, but instead [fill in blank here with whatever it is they didn't do].

    We're just going to have to go with basic value differences on this one. I'm not a 100% supporter of Obama, but I do agree that if you work hard, play by the rules, and achieve, you ought to be able to find work that enables you to afford a basic, middle-class lifestyle. And I don't think that "achievement" is measured as that basic middle class lifestyle, because that would be tautological.

    You, on the other hand, think that economic struggle is evidence of inferiority—inferior morals, inferior work ethic, or inferior choices—and that anyone suffering from such inferiority ought to basically rot in our system.

    I have nothing else to say to you—you are everything that I am voting against.

    I'm voting in favor of taxing your type of ant and using those revenues to aid my former students to join the economy in one way or another.

    And just in your case, I'd love to tax you at a very high rate.

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    I am not a purity troll. I am a purity warrior.

    by nobody at all on Tue Sep 11, 2012 at 09:17:19 PM PDT

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    •  That's not the problem for most people (0+ / 0-)
      Because the economy never changes, and nobody has ever followed advice about what will make money only to find out later on that the economy has shifted and those jobs are either no longer in demand or overpopulated by other people wanting to make money, too.
      What industry sectors do you think that has happened to?
      You got bad advice? Too bad you chose bad friends. You got bad advice from counselors and the press? Your fault for attending one of those liberal universities or reading that liberal press.
      Educators who tell students to do something they love instead of stuff that will make money are guilty of educational malpractice.   But there's always bad advice out there.  Is no one responsible for their own mistakes?
      You're a lawyer and you can't find a job that will make it possible for you to repay your student loans? (This J.D. is a close relative with a degree from Stanford.) You must either (a) suck at what you do, or (b) [fill in blank here that makes it this person's fault],
      A Stanford JD who can't find a job that will let him/her repay student loans is either a screw up or he decided to do something where the rewards are not monetary - like being a community organizer or practicing public interest law.  But if you voluntarily choose a life whose primary rewards are non-monetary it seems unreasonable to complain you do not make enough money.
      (c) shouldn't have taken out student loans, but instead [fill in blank here with whatever it is they didn't do].
      Well, if you want to be paid in job satisfaction or in the knowledge that you are making a difference to society then I would suggest finding a law school that will accept tuition payments in the same currency.
      You, on the other hand, think that economic struggle is evidence of inferiority—inferior morals, inferior work ethic, or inferior choices—and that anyone suffering from such inferiority ought to basically rot in our system.
      For those who had the chance to do well - who went to decent schools and who are not mentally deficient in some way - usually yes.
      I'm voting in favor of taxing your type of ant and using those revenues to aid my former students to join the economy in one way or another.

      And just in your case, I'd love to tax you at a very high rate.

      Heh... easier said than done - like Mitt Romney, I pay what I owe but I structure my affairs to minimize what I owe.
      •  Enough Said (0+ / 0-)

        "I pay what I owe but I structure my affairs to minimize what I owe."

        You don't do your fair share, but you expect others to do theirs and/or will suggest that if they actually do pay their own fair share it's their "fault" or "choice."

        Basically (and this entire thread illustrates it), you have purely mercenary ethics, have been colonized by the commodity fetish, and are proud of it.

        Discussion over; we operate from completely different value positions and want society to look and operate in two completely different ways. There is no point in talk, all that's left is to fight for history.

        You'll say "may the best man win," I'll say "may everyone someday win," you'll say "that's utopianism," I'll say "until we get rid of people like you, it is."

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        I am not a purity troll. I am a purity warrior.

        by nobody at all on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 07:25:52 AM PDT

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